James Toney vs 70s George Foreman (15 rounds) - challenger withstanding

John L. beats both so does it really matter?

 

Before I say anything, are we saying 'poultry' or 'paltry?' This matters. I think. I don't know what it means.

 

Is that a minced oath or do you mean in relation to poultry?

 

I was trolling but I'll bite on this complete hypothetical I have literally no way of proving:

Corbett in his 1925 autobiography apparently said that Sullivan was just as fast on both his hands and feet as Dempsey. In that fight against George Robinson in 1884 that Corbett saw, newspapers estimated that Sullivan weighed as much as 220lbs. A 220 pound aggressive freight train with Dempsey's speed is a terrifying thought, Sullivan may have been shorter but he was stockier and may have been more durable as a result too. In his fight with Kilrain, long past his peak, Sullivan was estimated to be between 207-220+ pounds (in one newspaper I recall Sullivan claiming he weighed 248 pounds against Kilrain but I haven't seen a contemporary go THAT far lol) and he went for 76 rounds in that fight where he was also the one constantly pushing the pace in. If a dissipated, past prime Sullivan could go on for that long imagine how well a Sullivan from the early 80s would do. I already wouldn't count Dempsey out against Toney or George, imagine if he had an extra 30 pounds on him while maintaining his speed and style.

Just leave it to me to make a Toney-Foreman thread about John L. Sullivan lol, but carry on.

 

Toney was a defensive back, not a lineman.

 

Its a permanent monument to lies. Also some PEDs but mostly lies.

 

"Toney>Foreman or defend yourself"

What the actual gloved god?

Toney couldn't defend his belt at HW because he popped for PEDs. Toney got shutout by RJJ at MW. Toney is a great P4P fighter but Foreman doesn't need no qualifier for his greatness.

I saw this thread as the weeks have passed and just assumed the Toneyites were getting destroyed like Toney would if he fought Foreman. So imagine my horror to open this thread up.

 

Joe Frazier was Toney's favorite fighter. As to the fight George's shoving literally negated Joe's entire offense.