James Toney vs Andre Ward at 168

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  1. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    It's not silly at all. Jones won fairly easily. Jones is the only 168 in the division's history who was better h2h than Ward. It would be a 9/3 type of fight for Ward.
     
  2. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Roy won due to his incredible speed and his unorthodox style.

    You can’t make comparisons like that.

    It’s how they’d have matched up stylistically.

    Toney beat Nunn, Roy beat Toney with absolute ease, yet Nunn would have given Roy a nightmare.

    Ward is a great fighter. I was one of his biggest fans. But what Roy did was irrelevant here.

    The best versions of Andre Ward at SMW, would not have scored a 9-3 win over the switched on and motivated versions of James who’d beaten Littles and Barkley.

    If you evaluate all of the available evidence, it’s pretty easy to predict that it would have been a close fight.
     
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  3. Serge

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    Dre didn't do slick fighters
     
  4. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Roy would’ve beaten Nunn more easily than Toney did. Ward would’ve done the same.
     
  5. Loudon

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    Nunn would have been a very difficult fight for Roy. They’d have gone feint for feint with each other.

    Andre Ward wasn’t as skilful as Mike McCallum.

    If it’d have been the best version of James, where he’d have been fully fit, fighting to his full capabilities, Andre would have had his hands full.

    Andre wasn’t particular fast, so it would have been a very technical fight.

    He couldn’t have jumped in and out of range like how Roy did.

    It’s got a close decision win written all over it.

    Andre was great. But not great enough to beat James by 9 rounds to 3.
     
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  6. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Stylistically this a winnable fight for Ward, despite what classic fans say otherwise
     
  7. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    Nobody beat Tony easily when he was prime. You have this opinion because Ward can move laterally. Like Toney couldn't adapt. LOL Ward could win, but not easily.
     
  8. NoNeck

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    Just like Jones.
     
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  10. CleneloAnavarez

    CleneloAnavarez Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I thought Ward would school Kovalev instead he went life and death (and lost).

    Not sure just how "great" Ward was. Toney was horribly inconsistent so he would probably underperform and lose.
     
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  11. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well Toney could win and he was a monster on a good night but i wouldn't count ward out and this is 168 Ward.
     
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  12. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    Jones was Jones. Plus very different styles. Jones's speed made it impossible for Toney to catch Jones. I don't think Toney would have that problem with Ward.
     
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  13. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    He'd also lose to Calzaghe and Toney.

    Possibly Canelo as well, too early to tell.
     
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  14. Moonlight

    Moonlight Walking in the moonlight... lonely.. as always.. Full Member

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    No one could beat Ward at 168 except Jones, Calzaghe and maybe Canelo.
     
  15. CleneloAnavarez

    CleneloAnavarez Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Toney would feast on the Ginger @ 168 more often than not.
     
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