James Toney vs Bernard Hopkins - 175

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  1. MagnificentMatt

    MagnificentMatt Beterbiev literally kills Plant and McCumby 2v1 Full Member

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    Who you all got?

    I think Hop would trouble Toney with his movement, but Toney would get the better of exchanges.
     
  2. Rebel-INS

    Rebel-INS Mighty Healthy Full Member

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  3. godking

    godking Active Member Full Member

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    Hopkins wide decision

    If Hopkins decides to rely only on his outside game its a possible shutout Toney is not half as impressive when forced on the front foot.
     
  4. the cobra

    the cobra Awesomeizationism! Full Member

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    Hopkins.

    Better footwork, faster, better at controlling range-and he would clearly win the outside battle and be basically an equal on the inside. Toney just became more flat-footed as he moved up in weight, and the worst stage of his career was when he was a LHW.
     
  5. WhataRock

    WhataRock Loyal Member Full Member

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    Hopkins is just the better fighter straight up..better at middle and better at lightheavyweight where a much younger Toney really had a patchy record at.

    I also think he has a stylistic advantage over James as he can fight a fight that Toney doesnt enjoy dealing with.

    Dont think he beats him a clearly as Roy did..But I agree 8-4 seems reasonable.
     
  6. FromWithin

    FromWithin Living for the city Full Member

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    I agree totally, Hopkins wide decision.
     
  7. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Hopkin's. He isn't made to order for Toney's counter punching like Barkey, or Charles Williams or Sosa. Too smart to get suckered into fighting James fight.
     
  8. ripcity

    ripcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I like Hopkins at 175. I would take Toney at 168 and even at 170 catchweight. but I think Hopkins is much better at 175. i think a fight at 160 would be compitive.
     
  9. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    bhop easily..with some dirty tricks in the middle rounds
     
  10. rekcutnevets

    rekcutnevets Black Sash Full Member

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    Hopkins evolved into a fighter that could defeat Toney at any weight in my opinion. Hopkins' style just isn't well suited for Toney. As someone already stated, the way to defeat Toney is to make him come forward. It is still not a guaranteed victory if get him to be the aggressor. Ask Mike McCallum about that.

    I would favor the best version of Hopkins to defeat Toney. I would pick Toney over Hopkins at 160, and 168, in the early to mid 90's. Hopkins was still a little raw when he first became champion. His game began to take off after his first fight with Mercado.
     
  11. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Hopkin's used to actually be a boxer/puncher of sorts, he'd almost always lead in fights.

    Something like that would play into Tony's hands.
     
  12. rekcutnevets

    rekcutnevets Black Sash Full Member

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    That is why I said I would pick Toney over Hopkins in the early, and mid, 90's.
     
  13. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    omg i was only elaborating relax :|:|
     
  14. rekcutnevets

    rekcutnevets Black Sash Full Member

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    Sorry, I was used to being disagreed with at that moment.
     
  15. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Wow. Not a lot of love for Toney?

    Firs up, this would be an incredibly boring fight, I bet. The winner would be the guy most successful at forcing the other guy to commit, and to my mind that would indeed be Hopkins.

    But a **** fight can be scored any old way, as we saw recently with Holyfield-Giantmoo.