James Toney vs Billy Conn

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  1. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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  2. Balder

    Balder Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Conn was a force of nature at his best.

    He would outbox Toney
     
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  3. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    Conn would win a decision. He would outwork James all night.
     
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  4. JohnThomas1

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    Conn would outslick and outwork Toney and look good doing so.
     
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  5. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    Toney would talk a lot of trash before the fight. Conn would whip his ass and do some takin after.
     
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  6. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    Bingo.
     
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  7. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Couldn't agree more
     
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  8. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Conn , too everything for Toney.
     
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  9. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    It's an interesting fight. Two guys with terrific chins .. at 175 you have to favor Conn by decision ,. may have even been quicker at 175 than Toney w the extra weight. Good fight.
     
  10. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Time for a "Let's be real" conversation...

    Prime Toney. Conn couldn't handle that level of slick. Don't mistake action for movement.
     
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  11. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Conn was a product of the Depression and WW2 eras. He was a tough, swaggering, confident, "take-no-shlt" Irishman who would have been more than a match for Toney's trash talk, and would have outclassed him in the ring much like Jones did...all night long.
     
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  12. The Long Count

    The Long Count Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Conn was special after he learned his trade on the fly suffering some early defeats to quality fighters he grew into an exceptional fighter. He was even laying a smackdown on Louis until the 13th.
    Toney whom I admire as a special fighter just doesn’t match up well with Conn. although he is good enough in his own right to make it competitive.
    Conn clear decision in solid fight
     
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  13. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    I don't count out an in shape motivated Toney against anyone. Toney getting sold short here as usual. I know its Toneys own fault he gets a lot of heat but the man possessed great skills and natural instincts. He unfortunately chose to think that was enough to get by on instead of treating it like he should have.
    If Toney had say a Fraziers dedication we would be speaking of him in completely different terms today. But yes I get it he didn't and it's his own fault.
     
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  14. Combatesdeboxeo_

    Combatesdeboxeo_ Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    I think that conn is being a little overrated and toney underrated i think that it is a fair match and both could win
     
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  15. Birmingham

    Birmingham Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    This..What if Toney turns up serious?? There isn't a fighter in history i'd take over him if he trains properly or he makes it a very very competitive fight with anyone ever...One of thee most gifted fighters of all time imo, regardless who they are or what they've accomplished, Toneys good enough to beat anyone