James Toney vs Gennady Golovkin : at 160

Sadly the middleweight of now is even worse that a midget old welterweight is the lineal champion.

 

It was stronger than the current MW division.

Compare

Nunn
Toney
McCallum
Jones
Hopkins

to

Golovkin
Cotto
Geale
Murray
Lee

 

Anyone who thinks Golovkin stops Toney DKSAB.

 

The top group is FAR superior. There would be some devastating knockouts if they did a round robin.

 

Yes, that was my point. atsch

 

I understand that, I am backing your argument against Rico.atsch

 

This has nothing to do with Jones his win against Toney was excellent. Toney fought a lot of bums in his career. Got gift decisions in every single weight class he fought in. He is a two time convicted steroid cheat. He never unified. He is a HOFer (depending on whether you think PED cheats should be inducted) but the notion that he is an ATG is funny to me. There is a difference between a HOF fighter and an ATG.

 

I don't dispute that which is why Cotto needs to either drop his belt or fight GGG and quit with the payouts and excuses. You have a guy that wants to unify vs a guy that literally is trying to create a 155 pound weight class as if 18 weight divisions isn't enough. It is a ****ing joke. :rofl

 

You are bashing Toney's nickname because you don't want to believe Roy beat a fighter with power.. Toney had one punch KO power at the lighter weights and carried it up and hurt fighters at CW and HW.

Also, I remember reading Toney didn't have a huge amateur back round which explains some of the early bums he fought.

 

Toney had *some* power at Middleweight. That was it. He and Jones fought at Super Middleweight. James Toney was in no way, shape, or form a power puncher. Ever.

If I wanted to slight Jones don't you think I would just come out and say it? Jones has enough things to criticize I don't need to try and 'hide' them. His Chin alone is something that can be talked about for days. The guy didn't like getting hit in the face and wanted an easy path to trinket belts. It is what it is. But I am not going to say that his win over Toney was worthless.

 

Imagine all the razor sharp counters GGG would eat to body and head after opening up every time.

 

How do you explain Toney hurting HW's?

You hate him so much that you slight him by slighting other fighters that he beat.

You have been talking about his chin for years.

Not too many people do...

Moving up and beating Toney was in no way an easy path to a trinket belt.. Toney was thought of as one of the best fighters alive, and there was a big question mark as if Jones could handle Toney's power, and he did.

 

James Toney, a former LINEAL MW champion, holds a KO victory over Evander Holyfield, a former LINEAL HW champion. How many guys can say they hold a KO win over Holyfield?

Exactly WHO has the Triple Duck ever beaten?

 

According to Rico, Toney didn't stop Holyfield.

 

It may have something to do with the large gaping hole in his head..