James Toney vs Joe Calzaghe At SMW

easily peak toney in neutral territory, though in Cardiff joes paid ref would stop the fight on a slippage, once toney badly dropped joe in round 1.

I am surprised this never actually happened in 2010 as joes next exhibition bout in his 40somthing American great club. Probably hopkins scared him so much that he realised even 40something good fighters could still beat him.

 

Calzaghe way too busy for James. And James is better suited to the conventional fighters that will throw right hand leads he counters so well. Not happening against Calzaghe.

The other big factor is Calzaghe will turn it into a footwork fight. And he certainly is not going to try backing him up or trying for a tko. It'd be up to Toney to slow the volume and activity level of the southpaw down & where is the footwork to pull of that kind of thing? or conditioning?

Dull fight and about zero exchanges in this. There would be more hostility and aggresiveness from Toney pre-fight press conferences than in the ring when it counts.

 

Calzaghe with his speed, activity, and durability would have been beaten Toney. Toney would have tried to lay back, counter, and dictate the pace. You couldn't do that against Calzaghe and hope to win. Hed just pile up points wherever he could get them and breeze home to a decision.

 

Calslappy won't hit Toney. I'm surprised as to how often that people forget that Toney was brilliant against southpaws. He really knew how to mix the high guard and the philly shell. Toney does a number on him. Easily.

 

"philly shell"

If I have to hear that word again I'll puke. As if Philadelphia fighters invented that technique...

As if James Toney's fight education was derived in anyway from Philadelphia boxing.

People who had never been to philly were using the supposed "philly shell" over a century ago. Ive been watching boxing for over 40 years and never heard the term until people started trying to associate it with Floyd Mayweather. Somehow two Michigan fighters who never had anything to do with philly, nor their trainers, helped make famous a technique known as the philly shell...

 

Didn't Toney one-punch out Michael Nunn? Toney in an upset late knockout.

 

Very close fight, it stylistically favours Calzaghe though.

 

Toney would counter Calzaghe to death.

 

Givin the way an old Bhop schooled joe, a prime toney would beat him up.

 

I agree. I thought Hopkins won that fight. Toney would walk Calzaghe onto the right hand all night.

 

and the other way, joe beats no one up, way too little power, true.

Again this all assumes you could get cowardzaghe into the same ring as prime toney. That prospect would have jibbering joe immediately faking an injury and then (mysteriously on the same bill he just ran from toney) instead facing someone unknown with no skills and no future like will McIntyre.

 

Yeah, where did that name come from? George Benton, maybe.

I mean you can see mike McTigue use it against battling siki.

 

Toney was at his best at 168 pounds. He is just to skilled for Calzaghe who would got countered cleanly all night long. Toney by UD.

When Toney is at his best, being busy ain't enough. See fights against Nunn, Reggie Johnson or Mc Callum who were all busy. Add to that Toney was better at 168 than 160 pounds.

 

30something calzaghe might face 45 year old toney, get dropped in round 1, outboxed solidly for 5 rounds with toney hitting him in the face again and again, and then after round 5 toney gassing out and calzaghe catching up by throwing lots and lots of wild inaccurate weak shots to take split deicision.