James Toney vs. Lennox Lewis

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  1. Hattons Hook

    Hattons Hook Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Can't believe people are even taking this seriously. I take my hat off to the thread starter , and i aint even wearing a hat.

    Lewis by murder.
     
    Hattons Hook, Sep 8, 2010
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  2. MAG1965

    MAG1965 Loyal Member banned

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    Toney defensively could avoid the right hand of Lennox but Lennox would win an easy enough decision.
     
    MAG1965, Sep 9, 2010
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  3. kirk

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    I was watching that fight again the other day, and i do think Toney deserves some credit though for that win, despite Holy's age... Nobody has since dominated Holy in such a fashion, not even Valuev who got an even older, and more worn Holy then Toney did. (for all his drawbacks, Valuev is still very much a relivent fighter)

    That is neather here nor there and has nothing to do with how Toney would do against Lewis, but i just rewatched the fight and wanted to comment on it :lol: I think James performence was top notch that night and while it was a sad sight to see Holy get pummeled, i figured that Holy would then go on to get beat by mid level fighters in similar fashion from there on out, which hasnt been the case. Whats even more weird (and sad) is Holy might even outlast Toney in boxing.

    Anyways, sorry for rambling, i just think it was a good performence from toney though i realise holy was old and worn out.
     
    kirk, Sep 9, 2010
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  4. johnmaff36

    johnmaff36 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    A murder picture. complete mismatch
     
    johnmaff36, Sep 9, 2010
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  5. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Very disappointing fight,I think. Toney would have enough defensive proficiency to last a few rounds,but Lennox would connect around the halfway mark,and when that happens,it's lights out for Toney !
     
    Stevie G, Sep 9, 2010
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  6. mrbassie

    mrbassie Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I imagine it would be Lewis pawing with the jab and Toney not getting off with anything but avoiding the right. Something resembling Wlad vs Ibragimov.
     
    mrbassie, Sep 9, 2010
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  7. The Mongoose

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    Yeah, thats how I see it. Lewis demolishing Toney is wishful thinking, if he can keep James at the end of his jab like he did Evander and Tua I doubt he would press for a knockout.
     
    The Mongoose, Sep 9, 2010
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  8. mrbassie

    mrbassie Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah that's why he didn't fight Byrd, he was never going to come out swinging like Ibeabuchi did, it had stinker written all over it. Lewis generally threw when he knew there was an opening, he rarely gambled on landing a punch and then only with big guys when he felt threatened (Grant, Klitschko for example)
     
    mrbassie, Sep 9, 2010
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  9. ironchamp

    ironchamp Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Actually, I give Old Foreman 0% Chance against a 1997 Lewis and Young Foreman a puncher's chance.

    Lewis would have dissected him, picked him apart and stopped him.

    At least Frazier and Tyson were far more elusive and therefore would push Lewis to his limits. Its a styles thing really.
     
    ironchamp, Sep 9, 2010
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  10. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Don't know the answer , probably Lewis wins , and I don't know how , but the quoted post above comes from someone who wrote the same when he predicted a Bob Foster stoppage win over James Toney at 175.

    But how do people forget Lewis' performances against Holyfield and Mercer ?
    If Toney gets inside he will probably hurt Lewis with combinations which could probably hurt enough to prevent Lewis from using uppercuts , and if Lewis did , and missed , then another combination landed for Toney . Still , I favor Lewis , but the Toney whom fought Peter was even past his HW prime , especially the second time when throwing up was part of his conditioning , Toney did not look great against Ruiz , but what would have happened if he fought Lewis the way he fought Guinn ? or Holyfield ?
     
    frankenfrank, Sep 12, 2010
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  11. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    To again play devils advocate, the smaller guys are the ones that often took Lennox the distance. Almost all of his decision wins are against blown up fighters.

    Ossie Ocasio took him to a decision just a few years before he retired, the very ass end of his career.
     
    Russell, Sep 12, 2010
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