James Toney vs Sergey Kovalev

I said prime for prime Toney takes this, meaning if prime Toney fought at LHW, even though Kova is more proven at LHW, Toney's best opponent by far at LHW was Griffin, who beat him twice

 

Who is the best CW or HW that Kov has fought? Has Kov beaten anyone better than Jirov.

Toney has fought and beaten bigger and better, plus faster and quicker fighters then KOV.

Prime Toney at his best beats Kov and anyone else at LHW today--> /thread.

 

+1

 

Boxing is more then timing.. you need stamina or your timing goes to **** as the fight wears on and you are too tired to keep up ever heard of a 4 round fighter they look great for about 4 Rd then it all turns.. Zap Judah being an example of that .. Also power is important otherwise Korey Spinks would of been dominant forever.. Paulie malinaggi was a great boxer but had no power how did that fare against the best comp.... Also toney was out boxed by Sam fing Peter so tell me strength isn't important or was Peter just a better boxer you clown. Maybe you should cough Toney's balls out if your mouth and admit steroids help you be successful where you may not of been more power and Stamina can only help you. Toney is a steroid cheat and due to that he deserves an asterisk next to all of his accomplishments. No amount of butt hurt from his secret admirer can change that fact.:deal

 

Insecure about a cherry picker :rofl that's a good one !

He didn't beat my favorite fighters when it mattered that's why he's never faced an elite fighter in their prime !

Your boy has the fluffiness record in boxing history ! But go ahead do,your little spin routine like you always do ..No matter what there isn't one hall of famer in their prime on his resume that's why you build up journeymen like they were A level but the rest of the world knows the truth!


You can rehash that fight all you want ,everybody knew the version of. Jones he faced was shot except you..Jones career trumps anything. Joe did But hey keep telling yourself Joe beat the best version of Jones possible ..

 

Kovalev has the power to KO anybody at his weight, even Toney.

And Toney sometimes showed up out of shape and off his game, so he could be outpointed here.

That said, if the best version of Toney shows up, and the best version (we've seen, so far) of Kovalev shows up, Toney takes this without too much difficulty. He might even stop Kov.

 

Hasim Rahman, Sam peter, Evander Holyfield, Lebedev and countless other heavyweight couldn't knock Toney down letter alone knock him out but Kovalev can?

 

:huh
Hasim Rahman, Sam peter, Evander Holyfield, Lebedev and countless other heavyweights couldn't knock Toney down let alone knock him out but Kovalev can?

 

well James Toney is my favourite....

 

Kovalev would knock Toney out and finish destroying what's left of his brain....................it's time for Toney to retire................

 

prime for prime Kovalev hasn't reached his yet so judgement is reserved.

 

shut up and go feed your cows and chicken farm boy.

 

KO4Clev would not fight someone so old it is not his style to do Cowardzaghe.

 

please answer the questions. How was Toney after losing to Jones suddenly not prime but was before? He was apparently having weight making problems at SMW so LHW shouldnt be as difficult as SMW, I wouldnt think

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Kovalev beat undefeated world champ Cleverly, who had beaten top 10 comp in Murat and Bellew, as well as Kovalev beating top 10 Campillo

Who did Toney beat at LHW? Tell me what Toneys big LHW win was?

Toney was losing to Thadzi at LHW.

Look at who has done what at the weight when you assess

Please answer the question above.
Trying to answer a question with a question is a cop out.
As I dont duck, I will answer you.
I dont know who the best CW or HW is that Kovalev has fought, but this thread is about LHW so that is not relevant to this thread and seems you are trying to get out of answering my questions which are based at the weight.

Guess that depends how you rate Jirov. What were Jirovs top 5 wins? This will be good. Who did Jirov beat?
Kovalev beat Cleverly who had beaten Murat an undefeated top 10 LHW and Bellew a top 10 undefeated LHW, so I would guess that Cleverly who was a winner of 6 world title fights may have been better