James Toney vs " The Black Murderer's Row

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  1. Bronze Tiger

    Bronze Tiger Boxing Addict Full Member

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    James Toney was built by Bill Miller to be a throwback fighter...how do you think he would do in this era?
     
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  2. Tonto62

    Tonto62 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    He had the talent ,but not the dedication or character.
     
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  3. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Very good points
     
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  4. Rspen46

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    He would have not done very well.
     
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  5. Bronze Tiger

    Bronze Tiger Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Why do you feel this way?
     
  6. thistle

    thistle Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Toney was every inch a talent, cagey fighter. I think he would have fit in fine, though when you double and triple the amount of fights, some of our modern fighters 'might' well have fallen by the way, others 'might' have stayed in with the killers. it is never clear and easy to deduce 100%, though Toney was definately a great fighter.
     
  7. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Toney has the knowledge and talent as long as hes in shape he gives anyone all they can handle
     
  8. ChrisJS

    ChrisJS Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wins some, loses some. The constant schedule helps Toney and he’s obviously very skilled and durable.
     
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  9. Seamus

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    He is in the proper mold but didn't like to fight 3 minutes a round. Maybe if times were different he would have fought different. But as it was, he wouldn't have survived. Christ, he wouldn't even do roadwork at a certain point.
     
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  10. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    That is a good point. He would of had stay busy to survive. No Burger King drive through either. Toney would of had to probably work an 8 hour job during the day the way Charley Burley did. Maybe that keeps him for becoming a lazy chubby cruiser/heavy. Its hard to say which direction it may take him.
    One thing is certain. He wouldn't have been showing those guys anything new that they hadnt seen before. Just another tough boxer.
     
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  11. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    Taking fights on short notice, not being the house fighter. It's a tough go.
    Charley Burley worked all day, got a call and hopped on a bus to LA and gave Archie Moore a boxing lesson. Put him on the canvas to boot.
     
  12. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    One of the best stories in boxing IMO.
     
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  13. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    That was a different generation. People did what they had to do.
     
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  14. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Toney can survive in any era.The last old school fighter in the modern era.
     
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  15. Mendoza

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    I agree with this. However if he was in that time line, he'd either retire sooner or adopt to being in better shape to compete.

    The less then active counter puncher types are in general going to lose out to the active punchers who had skill . While Toney had some power, he can't fight 2 minutes a round and expect to win enough of them vs well conditioned fighters of class.