James Toney's thoughts on Haye!

It's funny, everyone saying Haye is in hiding after this comment.. which was made in July! and Haye has since responded too!

Anyway, not teh only flaw in this debate, the fact Toney ducked Calzaghe, when he even offered to whip him in shape then whip him in the ring... Toney didn't respond and I'm not suprised. Benn also offering a fight, instead got a much more talented fighter in Gerald McClennan whom he beat tragically, after Toney witnessed that, no wonder he started cramming pies and cakes to get away from Benn's weight! We also have the fact that as Haye pointed out in his response, he's won 1 of his last 6 fights, and he's been nothing since he gave up drugs, which obviously elevated his abilities to heights far greater than he was capable of, though the way RJJ utterly battered him, it's funny to think of his mental stage after that!
Waster, drug abuser, tubby rolly polly disgrace.

 

wrong in every way .

 

David Haye would KO Toney in 3 rounds

 

You my man, are complete idiot:good

 

Nice constructive counter argument, now scram.

 

You cannot answer constructively to the post, that disrespect a legend of sport with a false claims and bull**** :verysad

 

so he didn't take drugs? He didn't duck Benn and Calzaghe, and get an absolutely humiliating thrashing from RJJ? and he hasn't won 1 of his last 6 fights? and he is actually a slender well mannered chap capable of forming coherent well rounded English? .... case and point

 

Bull**** claim 1. "he's been nothing since he gave up drugs, which obviously elevated his abilities to heights far greater than he was capable of, "

There wasn’t anything different in he’s performance against Ruiz than against Peter. Roids helped him to recover from injury faster, they didn’t create his boxing skills.
Also you are implying that he used steroids in lower weight clases, even thou he tested negative every time in there.


Bull**** claim 2. "the fact Toney ducked Calzaghe, when he even offered to whip him in shape then whip him in the ring... "

What an idiotic clame to make. Man who is not afraid to go heavyweights and fight best of there is not scared of Calzaghe.[FONT=&quot]
Toney would have school him if they ever would have fight.
Actually I Toney will still beat him, if Joe wants to come in to heavyweights.[/FONT] :deal

Bull**** claim 3. "Benn also offering a fight, instead got a much more talented fighter in Gerald McClennan whom he beat tragically, after Toney witnessed that, no wonder he started cramming pies and cakes to get away from Benn's weight!"

You really think he chose to go heavier weight classes to get away from Benn . It would have been good fight but Toney didn’t duck him.


There is couple of those idiotic claims.

There is more in your post but I got to leave from work now.

 

Why take roids if it didn't enhance his abilities?

Benn beat a guy who beat RJJ in his amateur days, and McClennan was every bit as good as RJJ, it was a tragic result what happened to him, and proved Benn could more than live with Toney, esp considering how lopsided the Toney Jones fight was, Ok i exaggerated him moving weights to avoid Benn, but he didn't want any piece of Benn, he got on TV with Benn as a PR campaign, nothing more.
Calzaghe was always trying to get Toney to fight him, Toney went to heavyweights because the division was in such a dreadful state, he saw a chance to make a name for himself in the worst heavyweight divion in living memory, and he still failed there! Toney schooling anyone in anything other than pie eating is laughable, especially when you say it about Joe Calzaghe, had Toney been calling Calzaghe out for years, we'd always hear from you anti Calzaghe people how Joe ducked him therefore hes terrible... now the shoes on the other foot, theres no legit reason.

And sorry, anyone that does steroids in boxing is not a legend, RJJ, Hopkins, Calzaghe, even Hatton gets far more respect, none of those had to enhance their power and durability, Hatton rolls into a gym and loses 40lbs from sheer hard work, Toney rolls in and takes a few steroids and god knows what else and still looks a tub of lard.

 

a) He took roids to speed up the injury recovery.
b) He was actually calling out Lennox Lewis when he moved to heavyweights, so I don’t think he wanted a make history with a weak division.
Also almost every sport everyone is glorifying the old days and calling today’s situation bad. That does not make it true however.

c) Toney has always take the tough challenges. Example: Toney put he’s title shot on the line voluntarily to fight against peter to prove him self.
He beat the guy but some senile old *******s scored it wrong way.

d) I’m not anti-Calzaghe people. I just think Toney didn’t duck him .


f) Toney is a legend and your bull**** don’t change that



I’m no Calzaghe hater homie, but Toney would send he’s ass back to slavery. :yep

 

The fact Toney has failed to make an impression on a very weak heavyweight scene tells its own story, he called out Lewis after he was long retired, Lewis was never going to come in and fight an outta shape heavyweight, plus he failed to beat Rahman which he needed to even tempt Lewis out of retirement.... again never going to happen, but he couldn't even do that!

Toney is a loud mouth cheat, what ever reasons you defend his use of steroids, it has many other enhancing effects, and he shouldn't even be in the sport, if an Olympic sprinter is banned for use of steroids, it's not to enhance their recovery time, and nor is it fair they can be clean and never race again, but Toney jkeeps making money from his drug induced past.

The guy is a disgrace, and your sugar coated Toney tinted glasses doesn't change that.

 

he's right about one thing, the use of steroids can never be excused or condoned. toney is lucky he didn't get a life ban.

 

The only disgrace here is that you limit Toney's career to his recent steroid scandals. Toney has proven that he is a HOF lock.He beat many good fighters during his long career. Nobody questions his resumee. You obvously do not follow boxing since a very long time.

 

While Calzaghe make he’s mark in history by fighting WBO mandatory bums Toney was already a legend.:deal

And actually Lewis was not retired when Toney called him out.
Toney also beat Rahman easily in their last fight and your bull**** is not going to change that.

And to the steroid ****. You have your stupid opinions and obvious bias so it is not worthy of answer. :nono