James Toney's thoughts on Haye!

Prescott_Fan · Sep 21, 2008

Jack Presscot said:

Toney will do to him what Floyd Jr. did to Manchester England, or anyone in the top 10, HW.
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ROFL!

Anglosaxon · Sep 21, 2008

Jack Presscot said:

:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl Oh, ****, I've heard it fooking all now. Toney is much like Mayweather. He is slick and crafty, and a master defensive fighter, who is double tough. Haye hasnt done **** yet, except unify a weak ass Cruiserweight Division. He is going to find that HWs hit a lot harder. Haye is not more gifted than Hatton, and the World will soon find that out.
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he's as much like him in the fact he's male, black, and a pro boxer, i don't see Mayweather stampeding to the buffet, injecting himself with illegal substances, or losing to average fighters. You're truly in the realms of fantasy now, hopefully Toney won't cower any longer and make some noise and force Hayes hand, I can't see Toney saying a thing now he knows Haye hasn't got an opponent, I guess he knows better, he needs his teeth to chew choclate bars, not to adorn a pendant around Hayes neck.

mrbassie · Sep 21, 2008

ENGLISH_TITAN said:

Actually, if Labour were all for business, then they would cut down the corporation tax so as to even the playing field againts other nations
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Why would they? These people are greedy politicians and not socialists as I've pointed out and certainly not Samaritans either. Don't be so naive as to believe that top end decisions are made for the benefit of the country when back-handers are going on.

as it is, we are constantly losing industries to off shore based company's, and eastern european/asian countries
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and whyis that? any short term rewards can be spun off as beneficial to the country whereas when any and all problems resulting from said decisions become glaringly obvious those who made the decisions are long since gone from office

their policies don't favour the middle classes at all, I pay 40% of my income,for what? 8.7 billion to be part of the EU? 1.5 million to explain faiths better in an area of London? People to live off benefits and over breed so they can gain for support? or to house prisons with playstations or house, feed and heal immigrants who preach flying a flag of Islam in the UK? or other wastes that are far to many and long to mention...no wonder so many people are leaving the UK, the more you tax hard working people and try and distribute the middle and upper classes wealth the less likely they are to stay and then you're left with working class funding each other. thats not going to go far. [\quote] their policies favour themselves and their friends. I don't vote labour and I'm certainly not an apologist for the **** state the country is in.

I would also like to point out, the labour party is full of people from working class backgrounds, even the Speaker is from a working class background albeit they are all social climbers.
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irrelevant.

You mentioned Kinnock as a left winger, the same Kinnock who was opposed to the house of Lords, the same Kinnock who is now Lord Kinnock? he didn't oppose it then did he? sorry, left winger's all of them.
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I think you may be confusing opposition to heredetary peerages with opposition to a body with power to veto parliament.

On one side you say we exploited, enslaved and committed genocides.What's happened to Zimbabwe since we left is that better? and India, fine it was being dictated to, but do they not exploit their people now?
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Again, irrelevant. Whatever the situations are now, the record of britain's colonial past drips with blood. Africa for example is a ruin today as a direct result of European countries (including but not exclusive to britain) creating borders which have brought tribal nations into conflicts which otherwise would not have occured-Rwanda for example.

children don't work obscene hours just for shelter and next to no food?
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Not saying they don't but young children in third world countries working to help feed their families is a little removed from small children in work houses or up chimnys working to feed their families while their government presides over the largest and wealthiest empire in the history of the world don't you think?

we also abolished the slave trade which was used Worldwide and in African/Arab countries before we started and I add, it's still being used to this day, so while we accomplished a great many things, including the industrial age, many great inventions, classical music, poetry, etc, we also have done no worse than these so called exploited countries still do today.
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Am I supposed now to endorse slavery so long as it's happening in a foreign country? Again, nice try. Abolotion of slavery is impossible without having first participated in it is it not? That's in your country's past and you can't gloss over it. Arguably no worse than other countries but it still happened didn't it? And that while the industrial revolution was going on which, I might add, was a European phenomenon not exclusive to Britain.

Why should I not display the St George cross? England is the only country in Europe without it's own parliament, don't you think we have eroded the pride of being from England enough? St George ''may'' have been Turkish
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Well why should you? It is not the flag of the nation you presumably were born into and the only logical reasons I can think of for adhering to it is to alienate the Scots, Ulster Scots and the Welsh or out of fear of reprisals for the association of the Union Flag with neo-nazism.

regardless of this, it was his spirit and beliefs that led Richard to use the St georges Cross, he stood for Christianity and of course showed perceived English courage in slaying the dragon, though this is here nor there, a topic used mainly by left wingers, especially used by Labour Party members, in an effort to degrade the country and refer to it as a ''mongrel'' nation constantly.

Some historins believe St. George was Turkish, some others believe he was a Roman, at the same time there is no hard historical evidence to suggest he even existed at all so I'm baffled at your claim to know what his supposedly extant beliefs were. The Richard you're referring to is I presume the oft misunderstood Lionheart, a French nobleman who accepted rule in order to make money from tithes whilest having Jews who attended his coronation bearing gifts as I was born in England, I take pride in Britain stripped and flogged. It is also an historical fact that he never resided in England and detested the country. I suggest you read up on your history. Also, the crusaders bearing a standard of red cross on a white background had nothing to do with St. George, it was in fact the emblem of the Templars.

but I am English first and British second, my loyalty first and foremost is to my country not to it's union, not understanding pride in one's country yourself, doesn't entitle you to degrade it or mean you're are right, or vice versa from my perspective, but to belittle patriots seems to go against all this '' free thinking, each to their own'' perspective left wingers have.
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I'm simply pointing out that the flag of England has no official status. Furthermore, the blood of the "English" is a mixture of south of the Danelagh French and German, referring as it does to Angeln in what is now modern Germany and Saxony which is of course in France and within the Danelagh itself Danish.

Pub's are also a place where a certain degree of risk is acknowledge, due to people drinking, walking through a park or a street in broad daylight is not,though two wrongs don't make a right, I preferred it when the elderly could walk out their homes feeling safe, or people could travel on public transport without a fear of stabbings or beatings after 8pm.
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Agreed but is it then safe for elderly non-whites/non-English to walk the streets at night or is any said fear of stabbing racially motivated? Perhaps you haven't considered that the amount of violent crime in the country could possibly be related to overpopulation rather than immigration.

I would never vote Labour
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Neither would I

I have and always will be a Conservative
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That's up to you, perhaps you're too young to remember what the country was actually like under the conservatives. I assure you there is no more sleaze today than there was in the eighties.

and the fact that Cameron has been to Eton pleases me, teh Labour party members may mock it, but I'll take a well educated person from a sound upbringing over a bitter working class social climber out to destroy a countries traditions and turn it into a mini USA.
Oh and not grouping people together doesn't really matter,people group each other, thats why you get Ghetto's in America, no go zones in the UK, and of course mass exodus of one ethnic group when another moves in,
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ethnic groups who the tories invited to britain in the first place
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Look at Israel for further proof of how well people integrate with one another, Oxford carried out an experiment with rats that supported this when a certain breed of rats turned on the others when confined in a small area and killedincluding ''gang '' like behaviour, ring any bells?
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Well that makes sense, human beings are of course identical to rats. there were no gangs before mass immigration and the Kray twins and their ilk were great British heroes

But I do welcome you going to the Middle East and trying to build the first Church there or acceptance of your law system and beliefs, you may find they aren't as tolerant as we are, despite our hostile old fashioned imperial views
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Ok well good for you. I myself have no plans to visit the middle east. I certainly don't plan on building churches there or anywhere else. I think it's rather childish to assume I'm some sort of apologist for intolerant regimes or even cultures, you may have missed the point but I don't believe in nationalism or sectarianism here or anywhere else. You seem to assume I have the same 'them and us' attitude which you evidently do and that I'm simply attacking the English. Silly

Incidently, 10years ago, I wasn't opposed to immigration, , but an open door policy, then the change to all our systems, traditions, and us making way for these people has rather changed my mind, especially when you see idiots like the Guardian writer Jasmine Brown , who was granted asylum from the Sudanturn on the system, and in Mrs brown's case state '' I hope oneday the white man will be the forgotten species'' or '' I hate white middle class people, and yes I am racist and proud of it'' it really shows the sense of warmth and gratitude people feel for Great Britain
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According to your profile ten years ago you were a sixteen year old child. It strikes me that your attitude is far more similar to the woman you describe than you would like to believe.
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RealIzm · Sep 21, 2008

take that **** to the lounge Bassie

mrbassie · Sep 21, 2008

RealIzm said:

take that **** to the lounge Bassie
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"Neo-Conservative 4th Reich"? No wonder you call it "****". He and I can contiue it by pm if it's bothering the board. I don't see the point though.
**** off and mind your own business nazi

mrbassie · Sep 21, 2008

RealIzm said:

take that **** to the lounge Bassie
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"Neo-Conservative 4th Reich"? No wonder you call it "****". He and I can contiue it by pm if it's bothering the board. I don't see the point though.

**** off and mind your own business nazi

Suge Green · Sep 22, 2008

James Toney speaks on Haye with authority, even listing nobodies who have beat him with accuracy.

Too bad Haye pretends his opponent isn't allowed to get paid, James Toney would make beating him look easy.

The Hypemaker don't want his Lights put Out though...

charlievint · Sep 22, 2008

ENGLISH_TITAN said:

LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLL you stayed up all night posting comment after comment long after I left, and all the comments stem from my own insults towards you!!, it takes you 20 of my posts to pretend a pic if funny! After I mention your pic, do you have an original thought? and man *****, gay... again not very creative, rather predictable, infact, it's become more recycled than mother jokes... but no one can accuse you of being a leading mind on this forum, I'm just pleased your weekend was ruined due to me tinkering on your self esteem like a public urinal

Right, Haye v Toney:

1. People say the old master against the younger newcomer to teh division... look what respect that got Calzaghe, the same situation, stepping up, fighting the p4p number 4, old master, and all he gets is ''barely beat an old past it man'' so where does that put Haye once he KO's him? another '' had to beat up on a shot Toney who was overweight and long past his best''?

2. Toneys won 1 of his last 6, and sorry, but Rahman was winning 2 out of 3 rounds, and any argument that says he won round 2 and 3.... that still says really they were level until the headbutt, plus Toney would have run out of steam by round 5.

3. Haye is calling out as many top 10 fighters as possible for his fight, all seem to be ducking him, so if Toney is serious, he will make a lot more noise about it, and Hayes situation, as we haven't heard a peep from him in 2-3months, I doubt he really wants Hayes, but nows the best time to shoot his mouth off.

It's all about opinions, people have strong emotions for Toney due to his early years, but I don't see how Toney would stand a chance against a fitter, faster and far more powerful opponent, but right now, I changed from not caring about the fight , to wanting it to happen, but I can imagine Klit's degrading him for beating up on Toney, just like everyone else will.
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:rofl :rofl What's up ass Clown! You are not only funny to laugh AT, but you are also a mentally handicapped meat packer.!atsch You can't even read or understand "TIME". I posted replies to your garbage posts within 10 or 15 after you replied to mine. I know it's hard but next time try to comprehend what you are looking at rather than just spouting off nonsense as you normally do.

It seems you were the one following me around after I left the office on Friday! Like I said, you are my entertainment. You provide the laughs that shorten my work day. So thanks!:good

And please stop your whinning! You're such a ***! Look, if you don't want to keep on getting your feelings hurt then stop making yourself out to be an ass. You have no one to blame but yourself. Dont act like you know what you are talking about if you really don't...otherwise your card is gonna get pulled quick! It would help if you could somehow buy a personailty as well. This CornBall **** you got going for you only makes it easier to clown your gay ass pillar to post.

And STOP TALKING ABOUT BOXING! You don't know **** about it. Having some posters of Joe C or David Haye in your bed room doesn't make you an expert you carpet muncher....so please do yourself a favor and keep boxing out of your mouth...besides doing that is kind of dificult withy our flamboyant lifestyle fruit cake.:yep

Prescott_Fan · Sep 22, 2008

Suge White said:

James Toney speaks on Haye with authority, even listing nobodies who have beat him with accuracy.

Too bad Haye pretends his opponent isn't allowed to get paid, James Toney would make beating him look easy.

The Hypemaker don't want his Lights put Out though...
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I will be laughing at this for weeks to come, many thanks for giving me a good laugh.

BoxingGuru · Sep 22, 2008

Suge White said:

James Toney speaks on Haye with authority, even listing nobodies who have beat him with accuracy.

Too bad Haye pretends his opponent isn't allowed to get paid, James Toney would make beating him look easy.

The Hypemaker don't want his Lights put Out though...
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James Toney's knockout record at heavyweight speaks for itself! Haye is shaking in his girlie boots! :happy

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