Why should Vlad fight Haye, when he has big mouth, that he can't back up? And won't. Haye beat a very average champion at cruiserweight to win his belts, and even at that Haye was almost KTFO. Mormeck isn't even a puncher, and he has no stanima. All the best cruiserweights left the divsion: Juan Carlos Gomes, James Toney, Vasilly Jirov, Johnny Nelson, and Haye picked up the belts from second rate cruisweight left overs!
first off are you really comparing Larry Holmes to James Toney?.....are you serious? Holmes is miles better then Toney ever was,.....and second Holmes was a NATURAL HEAVYWEIGHT....James Toney isn't you genius........as i said before, for someone like Haye who wants to fight Wlad but first prove hiself against REAL heavyweights... NATURAL heavyweights... HEAVYWEIGHT punchers, why would he fight a guy that started his career as a middleweight?, what ****ing sense does that make?....and to top it off, Toney's not even a top 10 ranked heavyweight, why would he fight him?.....when he can fight a younger, stronger, top 10 ranked fighter?.....any clown would know that for someone like Haye who wants to Unify the division as quickly as possible, that fighting James Toney, who's only won 1 out of his past 5 fights would be a ridiculous choice.......it's commonsense kid, think before you post something
I think that you missed my point. It does not matter if you view Toney as a natural heavyweight or not. The point is that he was able to hold from 2003-2008 his own against the top heavyweights (Ruiz, Rahman twice, Peter (twice), Holyfield), so he has proven mimself at heavyweight. James Toney is currently a top 10 heavyweght (check the rankings of Boxrec). You can not deny those facts. It pretty obvious that for his first fight at heavyweght, Toney with his experience and style would prove a very tough test for Haye. I mean look at the other available opponents (shot maskaev, shot rahman, bum McCline), nobody of the top 5 is available anyway That being said, I agree with you that you can not compate Holmes and Toney at heavyweights.
I agree, after the Rahman fight the lardarse could barely string a sentence together he sounded so punchy....I had to have the sub-titles on the tv to understand the moron, he made Ali sound lucid.
No one cares about about Haye outside of England. He is acctually completely unknown in America. Vladimir has filled up Madison Sqaure Garden, Casinos' in Las Vegas, and massive stadiums in Germany. He well known and extremely popular all through out Central Europe ( especailly Germany) and Eastern Europe. Vladimir is globally popular. Haye can fill a stadium in England full of pupets, but that is it.
Rubbish. You all care. All the non Brit boxing fans on here and every other site know who he is. And most Americans hate him and want to see him KO'd. You care more than anyone I have seen. And it is not about Wlad, it is about who Wlad can fight for the biggest pay day. If Haye were to win 2 or 3 Heavyweight bouts with his mouth and his style as they are, then yes more people globally would want to see that fight, than see Wlad fight Chagaev or Bidenko. Wlad is not globally popular, and nor are any of the heavys as the division is crap and the only global stars are in lighter weights. You sound like a 13 year old boy "Hayes fans are mainly gays".atsch :roll: "Haye is a ******". Are you actually a grown man? An adult? But seeing as you are obsessed with someone looking like what you deem a ******, I suggest you go and look at some of the photo shoots he has done, because some of them would no doubt have you calling him a ****** too. Or maybe not....he is afterall white and there is nothing you support more than a white man over a black man right?
James Toney is black, and he has my full support to crack Haye's glass chin. You admit that most American's ( and Eastern Europeans, trust me) want to see Haye get KO'd, but then you call me racist for wanting him to get Ko'd. And he is going to get KTFO sooner then later. Haye fans have a gay like obsession over him, something like teenage girls screaming for the backstreet boys.
No, some people are overhyping him like fans of any fighter do. Same as DLH, same as Hatton, same as Pavlik, Lacy (in the past) and even prospects like Gamboa. People go over the top and then they go over the top when someone loses and call them a bum and a hype job. Of course you support Toney over Haye as you hate Haye. But if Toney were fighting Chagaev or Povetkin you would support them. I don't call you racist for wanting Haye to be KO'd, I call you racist because you are and you would support a white fighter over a black one pretty much regardless. I guess you might make an exception if the white fighter was British as you have perhaps even more hatred for Brits than you do non white people.
People moan about Haye calling out Klitchko then say they wanna see him get KO'd. If they wanna see him KO'd they should want him to fight Klitch
Yes, first and foremost I am going to support Eastern European fighters. I will support whatever fighters I like, and I really don't give a damn what you think.
That is absurd. James Toney is great, I have't had such a laugh as him telling off Haye in a long time.
i think that haye will get only problems with tua, ibragimov, chagaev and toney, but klitschko and even virchis will probably knock him out. haye would easily win against peter, rahman, maskaev and povetkin.