January 17th 1942, Joe Louis is born instead on Muhammad Ali, how does he do in Ali’s eras?

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Devon, Jul 14, 2025 at 1:00 PM.


How many losses does he drop?

  1. Undefeated

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  2. 1

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    33.3%

  3. 2

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  4. 3

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    33.3%

  5. 4

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    33.3%

  6. 5

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  7. 6

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  8. 7

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  9. 8

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  10. 9+

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  1. Devon

    Devon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    How does he do across the same time frame? Against the same Ali opponents at the same age Ali was in each fight, 22 against Liston and 32 against Foreman and whatever else inbetween and after (based on how Louis looked at the specific age Ali was when he fought his opponents)

    Career up to when Ali beat Spinks in the rematch (Louis would be 36), but not after that fight.

    Where do you think Louis loses, if at all? And whatever else you feel like adding about specific matchups.

    Edit: So he’d be 22 against Liston, 29 against Frazier in the 1st fight, 30 against Norton in their 1st fight, 32 against Foreman, 34 against Norton third fight and against Jimmy Young, 36 against Leon Spinks etc and whatever age Ali was against the specific opponent he fought at the time.
     
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  2. Dempsey1238

    Dempsey1238 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He cleans out the 60's, depended on if Joe gets a lay off in this timeline or not??? I think he does beat Frazier in the 71 fight, Foreman may or may not take the title, But yeah I think Louis runs the table until he faces Foreman is my guess.
     
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  3. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Joe beats Frazier in first bout after a war but loses the second and third. Loses to Foreman but wins the rest.
     
    Stevie G, Jul 14, 2025 at 1:21 PM
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  4. themaster458

    themaster458 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Is this assuming that Louis gets the same development and training as he did in the 30s or what? Because I imagine he would be a totally different fighter if he wasn't trained by Jack Blackburn who died in 42.
     
    themaster458, Jul 14, 2025 at 1:35 PM
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  5. Melankomas

    Melankomas Prime Jeffries would demolish a grizzly in 2 Full Member

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    Louis should be undefeated until the mid-70s, odds are he has a few off nights but he’s stylistically favourable in matchups against Liston, Frazier, Foreman, Patterson, etc.
     
    Melankomas, Jul 14, 2025 at 1:41 PM
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