January 1958 'Heavyweight Rankings'

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  1. Senor Pepe'

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    * Floyd Patterson
    1 Eddie Machen
    2 Zora Folley
    3 Roy Harris
    4 Willie Pastrano
    5 Nino Valdes

    Champion
    Age 23
    Height 6' 0"
    Weight 187 lbs.
    Record 33-1-0 (24 KO's)

    Floyd Patterson is a fine, young, thoughtful champion who has all the moves. He is at once a
    resourceful boxer and a punishing hitter, although his punch is not quite heavy enough on
    most occasions to take out an opponent with a single blow.

    Patterson has consumate hand-speed and responds with flurries or combinations to the most
    meager opening. He has splendid stamina, speed afoot and heart.
    His two defects are curiously opposites;
    a) at times he is over-eager and throws punches off-balance, even in mid-air
    b) other times he is over-cautious and lets attack opportunities to slip by
     
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  3. lufcrazy

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    Interesting how 5 of that top 6 would lose to Liston over the next 3 years.
     
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    Eddie Machen

    #1 Challenger

    Age 25 1/2
    Height 6' 0"
    Weight 195 lbs.
    23-0-0 (16 KO's)

    Eddie Machen is a sturdy, workmanlike, upright fighter. He possesses a good straight right hand,
    but is not impressive as a hooker or infighter. He does not adapt easily,
    performing at best from medium-range, allowing for ample punching room. He is
    open to right hands and, if pursued, tends to lose poise.

    Although he has a powerful punch, the feeling is that Machen is a manufactured
    rather than a natural fighter. His opponents have largley been hand-picked to suit his
    style--either ponderous, deliberate types like John Holman or harmless old men
    like Joey Maxim. Machen still needs instruction and experience.

    In 1957, Eddie was boring with decision victories over Joey Maxim (twice),
    and Bob Baker. Those were followed up with a Knock-out victory over big, but
    limited 253 lb. Edgar Romero, and a late-stoppage over one-time top contender
    Tommy 'Hurricane' Jackson.

    In 1956, Machen started off the year with a victory over the sometimes dangerous Julio Mederos.
    That was followed up with an impressive upset decision win over #3 ranked Nino Valdes, and followed that
    up with a devastating knock-out win over the tough Cuban in the re-match. Those two wins were
    sandwiched around a knock-out win over a strong but limited Matt Jackson.
    The second-half of 1956 included wins over Walter Hafer, a re-match with Mederos, and the slow
    John Holman. Eddie finished out 1956 with a workmanlike decision over the cagey and capable Johnny Summerlin.
     
  6. McGrain

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    What??

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0BW_fQrRWU[/ame]

    Not to mention he quadruples it against Sonny Liston??
     
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    Zora Folley

    #2 Challenger

    Age 26 1/2
    Height 6' 1"
    Weight 195 lbs.
    39-2-1 (25 KO's)

    Zora Folley is a tall, even stately fighter with a great reach. Folley boxes from a classical upright stance,
    shooting out the left jab and crossing over, on occassion, with an over-hand right. Rather than block-off punches,
    Folley leans back to avoid them, which results in his being, at times, off balance for mustering quick right hands.

    He has a reputation as, a lackadasical, safety-first fighter who can be bullied and discouraged. He's a good
    counter-puncher who would rather not lead. This reluctance has now been explained to be a chronically
    injured knuckle on his right hand, which he now protects with a radical hand-wrapping.

    Zora was the busiest heavyweight contender in 1957 with 10-bouts. All were wins, but the group were all
    second-class fighters except Wayne Bethea. In the Bethea fight, Folley was floored and almost knocked
    out. If there is an indication of a flaw with Folley, it is his whiskers when absorbing a straight right hand.
     
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    Roy Harris

    #3 Challenger

    Age 24 1/2
    Height 6' 0"
    Weight 195 lbs.
    23-0-0 (9 KO's)

    Roy Harris comes out of Cut and Shoot, Texas, and much has been said of
    his barefoot beginnings. But little is known of Harris the fighter, since he has never
    fought outside of Texas or been on television.

    He's licked Bob Baker, but the mild-hitting Bob put him down with a right-hand.
    And he whupped Willie Pastrano by beating him to the punch, by slipping to the right
    on Willie's second jab, and coming back with a right to the body. When Willie wised up
    to this, Harris feinted with his right hand and landed a left hook.
    Willie said after the bout, 'He's effectively awkward'.

    In his last bout, the 4-Time Texas Golden Gloves Champion and current Texas Heavyweight Champion
    decisioned durable Willi Besmanoff. It was a solid win, as Harris won 9 out of 10 rounds over a fighter
    who was ranked in the Top 10 only 6 months earlier.

    Harris has been brought along with great care and friendly arenas, and if the same
    care is applied, he will be fighting for the Heavyweight Championship within the year.
     
  9. Seamus

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    nuff said.
     
  10. kenmore

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    What's the name of the author of the article? As I recall, SI had a really good boxing writer from those years. It was before my time, but I've seen the writer's articles in the library. Post his name, please.

    Can you post the rest of SI's ratings? The guys who round out the top-10 and top-15 are often as interesting as the fighters rated at the top (for hard-core fans, at least).
     
  11. Senor Pepe'

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    Kenmore,


    The boxing writer,,,,,,,,,,,,Gilbert Rogin

    The other listed fighters for January 1958;
    Mike DeJohn
    Wayne Bethea
    Alex Miteff
    Ingemar Johannson
    Joe Erskine
    Pat McMurty
     
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    I love Machen!!! :good:good
     
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    Willie Pastrano

    #4 Challenger

    Age 22
    Height 6' 0"
    Weight 188 lbs.
    44-5-5 (10 KO's)

    He is the fastest heavyweight afoot, this New Orleanian with sullen good looks and
    elaborately curled hair. And he can most surely travel, bounce, dance, slide and glide.
    Nimbleness and grace are his preoccupations.

    Pastrano can jab prettily - his chief weapon - he has quick hands, but is, at best,
    a mediocre puncher. This is due, perhaps, to his constantly being on his toes and therefore,
    not sufficiently set to deliver a jarring blow. He is a guileful evader,
    takes a punch well and rallies nicely when hit.

    Pastrano looked sluggish in his November bout with Willi Besmanoff.
    He did look better in his October bout in London,
    when he decisioned one of the top British fighters in Dick Richardson.
    A June decision loss to Roy Harris has not hurt his cause.

    Other wins include a 1956 decision over the previously undefeated northwest
    heavyweight prospect Pat McMurty, and earlier victories over name fighters, Rex Layne,
    Paddy Young and Joey Maxim.

    The drawback here is, Pastrano has no real power, and it does not look like he can
    develop any more natural strength.
     
  15. edward morbius

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    I don't want to rain on anyone's parade, but Machen is probably generally overrated today. He managed to beat the over-the-hill or never-were guys on the way up, but his record against top men is depressingly consistent:

    Zora Folley (2), Johansson, Liston, Harold Johnson, Cleveland Williams, Patterson, Terrell

    He didn't win a fight against any of them. He could be counted on to come up short when the chips were down.
     
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