Jarrel big baby Miller lacks ko power?

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  1. Vykus

    Vykus ɹoolɟ ǝɥʇ ɯoɹɟ ʍǝᴉʌ ǝɥʇ Full Member

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    Look at Millers record. Its all TKO/RTD. Not a single KO on there. He isnt ever going to knock you out, his sheer size and weight behind his punches create enough torque that any punch he throws is going to sap you of energy. Thats his style. Sap you, drain you, break you. Hes the TKO king.
     
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  2. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    :lol: Imagine if he swung wild like Golovkin. Man, one clean shot and anyone would be laid out.
    Remember Golovkin vs Lemieux? That boy was ruthless that night.
    Golovkin would drop his left hand below his waist and then throw it full swing. He would at times jump in with his entire body while throwing that ridiculous hook.
    And when he missed, the left hand ended by his right hip. He just went all in on some of those.
     
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  3. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    I think Washington and Duhaupas both hurt him. Washington caught him flush when Miller was just blindly covering up and failed to see the punch coming. Against Duhaupas, Millers fatigue got to him and Duhaupas managed to stun him a bit in the later rounds.
    Either you tire him out, or take advantage of his defensive lapses.
     
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  4. Caper

    Caper How about a fair shake? banned Full Member

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    Well one thing that’s certainly not in question is the number of boxing technique gurus available on ESB. It’s a good thing because there’s been a shortage in the boxing world and now we know where all the Freddie Roaches have been hiding. Lol
     
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  5. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Debatable as he hasn't fought a single fighter that could even be described as a puncher. His opposition to date have all been against guys with little to no power.

    Even if he does have a solid chin, big punchers like Ortiz, Joshua and Wilder can smash solid chins to pieces with one punch. Miller better have more than a solid chin, it better be granite because he gets hit way too much. He's a KO waiting to happen unless he has a Vitali or Mercer like chin.
     
  6. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    First thing Miller shouldn’t be considered a great fighter.

    Miller is a HW version of Jarrett Hurd, he throws these cuffing slaps which keep the opponent occupied and he wts them down. After 6 rounds of being slaps some of the slaps are gunna start feeling harder and harder because your punch resistance will start waning.
     
  7. Okin129

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    If he could generate more power with his punches then he would do it , no fighter is landing weak punches on his opponent on purpose, Fury has clumsy punching technique and throws mostly arm punches, he even uppercuted himself. It works for him because of his size, just imagine he would only be 6'4 and he would be a slightly better version of Malik Scott.
     
  8. minemax

    minemax Boxing Addict Full Member

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    And not only power. :lol:
     
  9. zadfrak

    zadfrak Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Bad legs.

    How many boxing fans even bother to watch a guy's legs anyway? They tend to think everyone is equal in the legs department and the only thing that counts in boxing is from the shoulders up. Think a plodder is what you are supposed to be. His balance gets worse as the rounds go by.

    But those are some bad knee's I see in there with Miller. He just has not matched anyone to show the magnitude is all. A guy like Usyk would make him look like a palooka by about the 6th round once the fatigue sets in. Turn him. Miller would be be falling in with everything he threw. And then set up on stilts again on the outside---bending at the knee's is out. Can you just imagine this guy trying to bob and weave while punching or fighting out of crouch?

    And that creates a whole other issue with Miller---his defense. I don't like it. Some better legs would help here too. I sure don't like the way he brings those hands back. Once again, he has not faced an opponent with the tools to take advantage of it. But he's leaving some big openings. I don't think his boxing radar for incoming punches is very good either. that will rear it's head someday.
     
  10. Infern0121

    Infern0121 Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Big fat slugging slug.

    There's no pop on those shots but they have add up as does him shoving his big sweaty man boobs in your face all night.
     
  11. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    Duhaupas and Wach hit him clean several times and he wasn't fazed. Takeaway has to be his chin is not going to break up by one punch from anybody.
     
  12. Vykus

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    Take a look at the size of Millers head, its huge. Pretty safe to say he has a pretty damn good chin. If you can use a heavy set and fat properly, it can be a huge advantage, and Miller is about as thick and fit as they come.
     
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  13. bruce_keyes

    bruce_keyes Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Lack of speed is basically lack of power. If you can't land your power shot because u too slow, then whats the point of even having it?
     
  14. Brighton bomber

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    Duhaupas and Wach are not big punchers. Duhaupas has a 57% KO ratio, Wach a 47% KO ratio. Wach hadn't stopped anyone for over 2 years before fighting Miller and was taken the distance by Nascimento a guy who has been stopped a bunch of times.

    Now clearly Miller isn't glass chinned otherwise he'd have been KO'ed already by weak punchers due to his porous defence but we can't say he can take a big punch off a big puncher yet. Getting hit by Duhuapas and Wach isn't the same as getting hit by Wilder or Joshua.
     
  15. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    You saw Duhaupas vs Helenius, right? Nobody on Helenius's cv has done that to him. And Wach can hit also. he broke his hand on Miller's solid bone chin.