Jarrett Hurd is a big bad man!!! Biggest 154lber of all times!!!

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  1. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Guillermo Jones at 154 was a blown-up-Welterweight, like many Panamanians he had a gracile lanky/rangy built. Not the typical West-Afro American robust built breed. For some reason the dominant lineage among Afro-Panamian is the Guillermo Jones type.

    Guillermo Jones made Welterweight effortlessly, at 154 he was soaked & filled with food. If he was drained he can make 140...

    At 15-0-0-0 (KO 13) Jones was a world ranked Welterweight, looking at a title shot vs Welterweight champion Ike Quartey, it would have been an impressive title fight... GOAT jab vs Rangiest Welterweight

    Moving up to 154 (possibly ducking Ike Quartey) was a horrible idea, although Ike Quartey was at his prime at that time & KTFO opponents with his jab
     
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  2. rhin0z>

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    LOL. I sure its a fact the human head continues to grow to age 23-26. but you got jokes.
     
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  3. Daddy

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    LOL "Make dat mozzarella cheese for da belt" Priceless
     
  4. Limerickbox

    Limerickbox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Willie Nelson was the biggest 154 Ive even seen.

    He legitimately looked like a LHW. He must have had zero muscle mass on his legs.

    As for Hurd, hes not going to have that much of a size advantage in this fight.

    Trout is known to get in the ring in the 170s, I cant see how Hurd could weigh much more than that on fight night.

    Theres only so much you can put on
     
  5. Forza

    Forza Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I got a lot of respect for hurd he was slangin sandwiches at the publix deli during the day and training boxing at night
     
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  6. Pimp C

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    Hurd will get outboxed until he catches Trout late and stops him. The guy has very good power at 154 you can't underestimate him.
     
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  7. mono

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    I think the Harrison fight had more to do with Harrison's proven stamina woes and less with Hurd's "supreme" conditioning.

    Hurd has talent no doubt, but War Trout.
     
  8. Manfred

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    Hurd is indeed a big boy and I am pretty sure he will move up to middleweight which will make that division more interesting, along with Lubin who is another big boy. The MW division is gonna get crowded with talent.
     
  9. james5000

    james5000 2010's poster of the decade Full Member

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    The writing was on the wall after 6 rounds
     
  10. james5000

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    I remember when Nelson fought Harrison and thinking Nelson looked pretty lanky, Harrison was shorter but solider but they looked similar overall size.

    When Harrison fought Hurd, Hurd looked a weight class bigger and Harrison is a huge 154lber too.

    Hurd will be way taller than Trout and in the ring Hurd will look just as wide. People saying Trout wins now will just say Hurd won because of size.

    It doesn't really matter though, if he makes weight he's allowed to use his size it is one of his assets.
     
  11. james5000

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    Trout weighs 170's but people were accusing him of being a natural lightweight when he met young Jarrett

    Hurd is freaking ginormous
     
  12. james5000

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    Austin Trout just got retired by young Jarrett, he went down swinging but he was no match!!!
     
  13. Manu Vatuvei

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    This is one of the most bizarre yet recurring discussions on boxing forums. Describing size as some abstract thing unrelated to actual physical size.

    If someone is carrying excess weight then yes they might be naturally "small" for the division. However that's clearly not the case for most of these 154lb guys (Charlo, Trout, Hurd etc) who weigh approximately 170 lean. As someone else said, there's a physical limit on how much weight you can cut and put back on. Hurd is not the only 170ish guy who is cutting as much as he can to make 154. It's common.

    It's a simple fact that Hurd isn't actually any "bigger" than guys who weigh exactly the same as he does while equally lean and in shape. If he appears to be "bigger" then maybe it's because he's taller and broader but has a leaner torso, skinnier legs etc. It's not physically possible to be actually bigger than someone but also the same size.

    What people actually seem to be mad (yes, mad...weirdly) about is that you can have two guys who are the same natural weight but one has proportions that create an illusion of greater size (usually taller, broader shoulders, narrower waist, skinnier legs). It just seems ridiculous to me to get mad about two guys who carry their weight differently or to keep repeating that one is "bigger" when it's factually incorrect.

    Sorry for the rant but this really annoys me. Like as if the "noted weight cutters" are the only guys who are cutting as much as they can from a lean physique and then putting it back on. That is the status quo.
     
  14. Manu Vatuvei

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    And if you want to talk about Hurd specifically (and get a little gay with it), he quite clearly has a very narrow mid-section and tiny waist. That's where he is "saving" weight compared to his contemporaries. Someone like Canelo can be as lean as possible but his torso is just way thicker than someone like Hurd's and in that sense he is a naturally much bigger guy.
     
  15. james5000

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    Please explain these findings then guru

    @ the weigh in when both fighters weighed 154ish, Trout was clearly the broader more muscle bound looking guy. Trout being 5ft9 and Hurd being 6ft1, the difference was stark. This can be expected 154 on a short guy appears bigger than 154 on a tall guy.

    Hurd was looking dry and skinny as hell, Trouts muscles were looking like boulders.

    In the ring Trout clearly had the smaller build, Hurd's muscle mass appeared far greater he didn't look dry at all, he was looking like a tank.

    Now @ 154 Trout looked like the bigger more muscular man, now if they were both 170 Trout should still look like the bigger man if everything was equal, why the difference?

    The answer is simply Trout weighed 170 and Hurd weighed much more. They looked a similar build but Hurd was taller, he would have been much heavier.

    Canelo is stocky and appears to weigh more because of his build, 170lbs on a 5ff7 guy looks different on a 6ft1 guy.

    170 on 5ft7 looks like the hulk, 170 on 6ft1 looks like Pee wee Herman

    Hurd looked brittle @ 154 in the weigh in and at that stage Trout looked like the bigger man, well they both weighed the same you hear me?