Jarrett Hurd Says He Loses 36-38 Pounds To Make Junior Middleweight...

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  1. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    Could not agree more this whole weight bully excuse really sounds stupid. if they changed the rules then hurd would just move up to 160 and would still probably be a big 160-pounder because the guys that cut a lot of weight to get 160 would be at 168

    Cutting weight and boiling down to your lowest possible weight has always been a part of this Sport and any sport that deals with weight cutting it's stupid to assume that changing the rules about the Wayans with stop guys from cutting extreme amounts of weight
     
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  2. DanielDimov

    DanielDimov Jabbing all night Full Member

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    Not surprising at all, obviously he can compete in a way higher division.
     
  3. Leoh

    Leoh Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I've said this in another thread recently:

    https://www.boxingforum24.com/threads/is-errol-spence-a-weight-bully.626113/#post-19733320

    "If he (Spence) moves up to 154 he'll have to face guys like Hurd or Munguia who are natural 168'ers (if not more) who drain themselves to 154"

    Hurd is a natural super middleweight who could easily move up to light heavy. So is Munguia. They'd still have to drain to make 168, but that's a more sensible amount of weight to get rid of, everyone does that. He could face guys like Ramirez or Smith, who are massive weight bullies themselves. Although I don't think they drain as much as Hurd currently does, he's on another league when it comes to weight bullying.

    A side note: Hurd vs Lara was one of the most ridiculous fights of the past decade. It was almost like Errol Spence fighting Anthony Yarde.
     
  4. nervousxtian

    nervousxtian Trolljegeren Full Member

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    Nah, same-day weigh-ins would lead to more injuries as guys would be drained more and being drained and getting hit in the head is a recipe for disaster.

    If a guy makes the weight, he makes the weight. All top level guys cut weight, if Hurd was to fight at 168, he'd be fighting natural 190-200 lb guys.

    The biggest issue with weight cuts is that it tends to really favor the full-time fighter as opposed to the guy who has to work a real job and fights on the side (which is the majority of fighters). Guys with full training camps with nutritionists and the like have an advantage over the b-side's of a lot of fights or guys coming up without a bankroll behind them.
     
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  5. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Thank you. As long as it's done with no shenanigans involved I could care less. Juan Diaz talks about being a chubby 200 lb kid (he fought at LW). He made weight. Juan Ma ballooned up over 200 but was able to get back down to fighting weight. Is he a bully? Let's not even get started on Ricky Hatton or Bradley. Maybe we should start up on height bullies, there's been a lot of those..........Paul Williams, Kingsley Ikeke, Robert Easter, Hearns, Guillermo Jones (started as a ****in 6'4 WW, how is that fair?).
     
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  6. LondonRingRules

    LondonRingRules Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Why do people call him a weigt bully, he’s the same weight as his opponents? His physical size at that particular weight is something he can do nothing about. He makes the 154 limit, the fact he’s a massive guy who happens to look a lot bigger than 154 is irrelevant.
     
  7. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Casual much? Do you even understand the impact of day-before weigh-ins, and the loophole the policy creates for gratuitous rehydration?
     
  8. LondonRingRules

    LondonRingRules Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    IB you know I’m not a casual, I’m argueing semantics basically.
     
  9. escudo

    escudo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What sort of mod magic allowed you to post this?
     
  10. iamtheman

    iamtheman Well-Known Member Full Member

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    surely that weight loss is counting pounds lost at the outset of his camp? it boggled my mind to hear it at first but some pro boxers are apparently part time athletes and don't train multiple days per week outside of camps. if one is barely training or worse, sitting on their ass all day eating over months long lay offs they could stand to gain weight thus blowing up the weight loss count come weigh in. then again i don't know what this guy rehydrates to.
     
  11. Alo2006

    Alo2006 R.I.P Sean Taylor Full Member

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    Facts. He would blow up to 140, then drop to 140 fight night!
     
  12. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    Man he must be weight drained as **** when he steps into that ring.
     
  13. james5000

    james5000 2010's poster of the decade Full Member

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    Honestly think Hurd would make Jaime look like a child in the ring and Jaime is a big boy for the division.

    How the f does he make 154 any ways???
     
  14. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I seriously doubt you could do this and fight a fast paced 15 round fight,,,,,,back to 15 rounders!
     
  15. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    Same day weigh ins with a rehydration limit, problem solved. Or make a rule that they have to have a certain hydration level before boxing, and do a quick check with a doctor using a breathalizer or something. Basically, all you have to do is measure a second thing in addition to weight and the problems go away. Alternatively, two weigh ins, one the day before and a second the day of the fight. You make weight both times and you can fight.

    This isn't rocket science. Although, if you wanted to, with modern technology you can run each fighter through a battery of tests to determine their optimal weightclass. Check your blood, check your body fat, etc. They already do a lot of that for training or anti-doping anyway.