Javier "The Beast" Maciel

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  1. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    :nod

    Especially at light middleweight, although some of those early KO's did come closer to (or over) the MW limit. I suspect his blowouts over 154 had more to do with quality of opponent, as I really think he's more effective coming in lighter.

    He obviously couldn't get Pirog's respect on a consistent basis despite penetrating his defense more effectively than most opponents. (Ishida connected more due to his high-volume slapping style, but probably missed at a significantly higher rate as well)

    In his native division, he is - true to his ring name - a beast. :good
     
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  2. zenek2

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    He hurt Pirog few times with bodyshots
     
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  3. purephase

    purephase Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Bumping because I just saw video of his first loss is apparently now up:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxwuQ0Sb8ZM

    Haven't watched it yet though so can't tell if it was as poor a decision as was reported.

    Also here's his last fight from a few months ago, the first time one of his fights has lasted the distance since Pirog:
    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mF212EXuMS4[/ame]
     
    purephase, Sep 30, 2012
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  4. fistsof steel

    fistsof steel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Kid looks OK my only concern is he holds his hands to low,fighters like Golovkin and Pirog would jump on that fault pretty quickly,needs to polish up and improve on his defencive part of his Boxing and he could have a future.!!!
     
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  5. haworths623

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    He's not quite top 10 IMO opinion but i'd favour him over the likes of Cintron, Spinks, Powell and Delvin Rodriguez
     
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  6. purephase

    purephase Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    A fight with Delvin would be really fun. Then again, I thought it was impossible for Delvin to be involved in a fight that's not fun until I saw that stinker with Trout.
     
    purephase, Sep 30, 2012
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  7. haworths623

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    I wanna see Delvin vs Kirkland

    :bbb
     
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  8. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    La Bestia made a 4th defense of his WBO Latino 154lb title last weekend:

    [yt]PU4E1LYyras[/yt]

    He did a nice job overall on EJJ, who in typical awkward Colombian slugger fashion vacillated between spoiling and looking to ignite a messy brawl.

    He got a bit wild at times, and seemed to struggle to find middle ground between laying it on thick and boxing in cruise-control - but a lot of that can be attributed to who he was dealing with and looking to close the show for his fans at home. I do love his investment in hard body shots, and when that lead uppercut lands... :scaredas:

    Next up is Vanes Martirosyan, on April 6th in China on the Viloria vs. Estrada undercard! :ibutt

    This is Maciel's biggest step-up since Pirog. It isn't officially listed as one, but with Martirosyan rated #1 by the WBO at junior middleweight and Maciel #6 it functions as sort of a quasi-eliminator and should be a direct springboard to a final eliminator (a chance to dance with paper champ Zaurbek Baysangurov) for whoever comes out ahead. I'm stoked!
     
    IntentionalButt, Feb 11, 2013
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  9. purephase

    purephase Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Maciel is fighting undecorated super middleweight Everaldo Praxedes on Friday at 160. Still annoyed we weren't able to see him school Martirosyan last month. Maciel says he'd still like to fight Martirosyan, so hopefully the weight limit for this fight is simply a one-off and he returns to 154 again.
     
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  10. IntentionalButt

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    :deal
     
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  11. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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  12. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :thumbsup
     
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  13. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    I remember watching this fight. I had it Maciel 115-113 if memory serves. I could have easily seen people scoring for Rose by the same margin without feeling anything was particularly hellishly wrong, skewed, or biased.
     
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  14. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    117-111, though... :-(
     
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  15. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Ah yes. I forgot that was what made the whole thing... controversial?

    He def didn't win 9 rounds. Most of the rounds Maciel won were far more decisive than the ones he "lost" in my view, so 117-111 Maciel wouldn't have been the end of the world, but 117-111 Rose is pretty garbage. EDIT: 117-111 Maciel might be a better card than a draw, even. I'd want to rewatch it.
     
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