JCC Vs Duran at 135

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  1. Sweet Pea

    Sweet Pea Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    He is outdone in every area in this fight, are you sure it isn't just bias talking?
     
  2. Jase2483

    Jase2483 Everyday I'm Hustlin' Full Member

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    Exactly my opinion, already put perfectly into words. I second this post. :good
     
  3. Docgear69

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    another vote for chavez, rosario was a big puncher and he walked through him. I think it would be a war, but it ends with duran bruised and bloody.
     
  4. PH|LLA

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    fight of the year, decade, century

    damn, if only it could happen
     
  5. bestdefense117

    bestdefense117 Young Gun Full Member

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    Duran wins this fight easy. Durans got CinderBlocks under his gloves.
     
  6. Fedor Em

    Fedor Em Enforcement, VRWC style Full Member

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    Duran wins a clear decision in an absolute war, there would be a lot of pride in this fight. 10-5 decision over 15
     
  7. Docgear69

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    You guys are forgetting taylor did everything better than chavez, hell chavez didnt really do anything spectatular. he was just a determine lil mexican that imposed his will on his opponents. Well he did have the hook to the body
     
  8. Sweet Pea

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    Chavez was the quintessential pressure fighter/body puncher. His style wasn't to outbox you, it was to be on you early, breaking you down for the later rounds, and finish you. He certainly worked that to the tee with Taylor, and showed the amount of adversity he could endure during it. Don't try to make Chavez out to be overrated, it's just that Duran is a more versatile fighter, this would still be an excellent fight.
     
  9. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    But even if this becomes an inside fight, wouldn't you give Duran the edge? He was more dynamic than Chavez, more fluid, and better defensively in close quarters.
     
  10. RafaelGonzal

    RafaelGonzal Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Chavez is great but Duran is a supernatural, Chavez is a brutal accumulation puncher but at this weight Duran has one punch ko power. Durans feints and movement are superior to Chavez'.

    Durans defense it too good he would be in and out from every angle and on the inside when he chose to smother Chavez's power. Duran is more athletic than Chavez and fights with greater rythm and movement. He fights offensively while in a defensive mode feinting and then going in.

    Chavez looks to time you and cut off the ring hammering you with his hard shots. But if Chavez tastes power he will back up slightly and try to box a bit more patiently he did that against Juan Laporte. He will still go in but not as often this makes Chavez a less effective fighter.

    Defensively Duran can roll with a punch and while on the attack counter this is what I mean by being on the offense while maintaining defense. Duran has the strength speed and power over Chavez and as great as Chavez is Duran is on a higher level, Duran is a supernatural force at this weight and decisons Chavez.
     
  11. PH|LLA

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    you're forgetting that Taylor was never the same after the beating that Chavez gave him, and that Chavez broke his bones and his spirit. And Taylor himself had atg skills and would've probably been an atg if it weren't for Chavez.
     
  12. Sweet Pea

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    Chavez is more of a pressure fighter than Duran, but Duran is a better in-fighter, which is basically like walking into a brick wall for Chavez, being as that is his main area, though his outboxing is by no means bad.
     
  13. Robbi

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    Anyone who wants to see Duran's development as a fighter watch his first title fight which started his lightweight reign against Buchanan and then the fight above, his final encounter with De Jesus.

    Duran was relentless against Buchanan and others during the early 70's. While Duran did dominate Buchanan, he wasn't economical with his punches, and technically wasn't as sound as he eventually became. His defense and ring generalship were areas that needed refinement. Arcel and Brown tamed Duran and made him smart and less ferocious, even though he was always known for his aggression. They tweaked him.

    When Duran was coming to the end of his lightweight reign he was at his peak, with his welterweight fights also showing his superb natural instincts and maturity as fighter.

    If you watch the clip above, Duran tends to think defense, and he's more controlled about his emotions inside the ring. Better and comfortable at long range. Defensively aware, especially slipping under punches. When he first walked into a gym under the watchful eye of Arcel, he tried to take his opponents head off as quickly as possible. A bit like a street fighter outside a club on a Saturday night.
     
  14. Robbi

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    Chavez wasn't as technically fluid as Duran, and it didn't just show when it came to technique in the delivery of punches, but also how they both coped defensively. Chavez was more of a blocker, with the ocassional slipping. His overall style was more rigid, and this never allowed him to be as flexible and muliti dimensional as Duran. One major aspect that Duran had over Chavez, waist movement. If you notice Duran against De Jesus in the youtube clip, he's also more mobile around the ring and could slip in and out of range much easier than Chavez who tended to stand more flat-footed.
     
  15. Robbi

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    And to follow up on my two previous posts. Duran was effective against bigger men, for the most part. Chavez struggled with them.