JCC Vs Duran at 135

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  1. Sweet Pea

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    :lol: I believe SS has asked you on multiple occasions to post a source for those, and you never have, while he himself has posted many accounts that had Whitaker winning. So forgive me if I don't take that point too seriously.
     
  2. joe the great

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    Kind of hard to post Ko (the knockout boxing magazine or Ringside). To be fair one of the many magazines did score that fight a draw though. Still a draw wouldn't have made the title change hands. And yet people want to cry for Whitaker because his draw to Chavez. At least Whitaker got to keep his title.
     
  3. Sweet Pea

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    So every single magazine you have scored the fight for McGirt, except for one which had it a draw? That is complete and total BULL****! You're a goddamn liar, bottom line. George Foreman(aka the worst commentator in the history of mankind) was the only one I know of that seemed to think McGirt won. Then again, George Foreman is always wrong about everything when it comes to calling fights. A ******ed ****** would be a better commentator than him.
     
  4. joe the great

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    Every magazine I was reading at the time. :fingerWho are you to call me a liar? I don't remember Foreman thinking that Mc Girt one but he's correct IMO.
     
  5. Shake

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    When I forget resumes and focus purely on my imagination, I see Julio's jab being his best punch with possibly body punhes to follow, but he's very open to that Duran overhand right he always snapped out after he either feinted or lulled you to sleep. I see Chavez eating that punch all night long, and enduring it.

    The fight might not have been as great as we'd hope. Lot's of clinching due to both men moving forward.

    I can't see anything but a Duran UD. He'd just land more punches than Chavez would. I also think at some point in the fight he might hurt Chavez when landing repeatedly.

    JCC is one of my favorite fighters, he is my 'Trinidad', as in that I have a love for him for the same reasons Trinidads fans follow Tito. Hard man, proud man, but most of all (like Duran) one of the greatest boxers of all time who sought to do damage rather than score points consistently.
     
  6. Robbi

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    Duran did resort to boxing when he came up against fire power. Not outright long range boxing, but he was much better defensively and did did resort to boxing against bigger men. The Hagler fight a prime example.
     
  7. Robbi

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    And I don't believe Duran would meet Chavez in the centre of the ring and brawl with him from bell to bell during each round. The vast majority of the fight would be exciting and involve fierce exchanges, but Duran has more up his sleeve to adjust and wait for the right moments to attack. He's certainly got the feet to move in and out of range and drop the pace of the fight to his liking.

    Duran at his peak of his powers at lightweight wasn't the come forward relentless aggressor he was early in his reign. His ring generalship and defensive awareness made him the finished article as a fighter. He had more options and selected his punches with more thought and precision.
     
  8. Sweet Pea

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    He boxed Hagler from the get-go, he didn't switch tactics in the middle of the bout due to being outdone on the inside or taking big shots, as Chavez has done.
     
  9. Robbi

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    Picked you up wrong.
     
  10. Robbi

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    Whitaker still couldn't take the belt?. Chavez you mean, as Whitaker was the champion.


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  11. Sweet Pea

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    :lol: Learn your facts before making an ass of yourself. Then again, your opinions do it for you anyway.
     
  12. thanosone

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    Sweet Pea didn't take the fight with Chavez in 91, why?? He waited until Chavez got a little slower. Not saying he ducked him but he didn't want a fight with Chavez then. Why did he demand a bigger ring. He did get the bigger ring and he still didn't do much to win that fight. Holding and running doesn't go well with the judges.
     
  13. Sweet Pea

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    He didn't hold and run, let's start it off right there. He boxed, just because he chose a more clever style than coming forward and eating punches all fight, doesn't mean he ran, it simply means he was the more skilled, clever fighter. Landing clean shots and not getting hit in return sure does a lot better in the judges eyes than getting hit clean all fight and missing. Unless, of course, the judges are corrupt.

    Second of all, In 1991 Whitaker was still a Lightweight, while Chavez was in the middle of his 140 run. The fight was offered to Whitaker in '88 as well I believe, they didn't except the fight then because, straight up, they didn't think Pea was ready at that point, they thought he was a bit too young to face a prime Chavez. Whitaker's peak years came a bit later(though I personally think he would've had a good shot even then).

    As for the 91 offer you talk about, did Chavez's people offer Pea a fight then? If so, can you provide a source? Chavez was still the #1 P4P fighter in the world and had just had very impressive showings against Camacho and Haugen.
     
  14. Robbi

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    Couldn't care what division Whitaker fought Chavez, he'd always have whopped him.
     
  15. thanosone

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    How am I going to get a source from 1991? When the fight was made it was a big deal beacuse Sweet Pea FINALLY took the fight. Chavez would have beaten Sweet Pea prime vs prime. Dont give me that Pea was a LW, they were always the same size. Sweet Pea did what he had to do which was move. He did but in no way did he beat Chavez bad. He simply just danced. Sweet Pea is one of my favorite fighters ever but don't act like Chavez was in his prime when he lost to him.