JDS v Fedor

Discussion in 'MMA Forum' started by Stoo, May 26, 2012.


  1. Stoo

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    He's clearly the GOAT beating well rounded fighters like Carwin, Mur and Nelson. It's inpossable to suggest that a fighter who was champ 6 years ago could compete with the guys of today as they have ''evolved'' The guys back in the day in PRIDE were all roided up cheats, where as today we have Carwin, Big Foot and The Reem riding high in the top 10

    JDS is so good he's dominating the division with decent TDD and basic boxing fundermantals

    Cain > Big Foot > Fedor, you cant **** with that logic.
     
  2. Beekeeper

    Beekeeper Bedtime Story, Aoki Style Full Member

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    :lol: I will hold you to this in another few months...
     
  3. Stoo

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    JDS is clearly shot now too. Mur's face would have smashed his glass hands to smtherines

    You dont repeadedly punch Mur in the face and then win your next fight. The only exception to this rule is Brock. But Mur tried a different tactic with him, and you all know the story about his glass intestines dont ya :deal

    JDS will lose the belt in his next fight
     
  4. RUSKULL

    RUSKULL Loyal Member banned

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    Do some research before posting such stupidity.

    Before the modern UFC, Fedor ruled the Price fighting championships & he beat everyone who was anyone, some more than once. Pride allowed soccer kicks and knees to the head of a downed opponent, UFC does not. Those differences as well as others may be the reason most former Pride fighters don't fare nearly as well under the UFC octogon rules. Strikeforce rules are much closer to the UFC than the Pride format. Combine that with the fact that Fedor already had a lot of mileage on his "prime" and it's really no surprise he isn't quite as good as he used to be. Same can be said for Crocop and many others............
     
  5. RUSKULL

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    Ridiculous conclusion.:deal :hi:
     
  6. rekcutnevets

    rekcutnevets Black Sash Full Member

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    Fedor's success had a lot to do with his athleticism. Fedor's athleticism made up for some of the technical holes in his game. Fedor's background in Combat Sambo gave him familiarity in every range of fighting, and made him an expert in throws. Fedor's speed allowed him to close the distance against better strikers, and his was able to keep them off balance once he go inside. Fedor had enough submission knowledge and explosiveness to deal with wrestlers. This explosiveness and submission defense also allowed him to have success against a bjj stylist like Nogueira.

    Once his speed started to decline, his record went on the decline as well. No one is as athletic approaching their mid 30's as they were in their 20's.

    As almost anyone that watched Fedor's fight with Arlovski knows Dos Santos has a style that could present Fedor with a lot of problems. I would probably make Dos Santos the favorite in a head to head match-up with Fedor.

    Dos Santos is still behind Fedor in terms of overall achievement. Fedor's record has a lot of filler, but the fights against Nogueira and Cro Cop are what separates him from everyone else. Cro Cop was a world class striker that was beating almost anyone outside of Nogueira and Fedor. Cro Cop was 3-0 against Barnett. Fedor also defeated Cro Cop in a ring. The ring is a preferred place for strikers as there is no cage to press them up against. Nogueira was defeating anyone that wasn't Fedor. Fedor dominated Cro Cop and Nogueira.

    There is still time for Dos Santos to eclipse Fedor in an all time sense. It took Fedor close to 30 fights to build his reputation. Dos Santos only has 16, and he is already in the running.
     
  7. HeGlassedMe

    HeGlassedMe ufc is the new pet rock Full Member

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    Fedya.
    JDS is all ufc hype.
     
  8. rekcutnevets

    rekcutnevets Black Sash Full Member

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    You mean the guy that went 16-0-1nc in PRIDE including wins over 2 K1 champs, 2 world class wrestlers, a UFC tournament finalist, a UFC tournament winner, and 2 of the best mma heavyweights ever?

    I use to get so sick of Fedor being declared the automatic winner vs any proposed opponent by any method he chose, but deniers of his legacy are equally as annoying.
     
  9. Lefthooktommy

    Lefthooktommy Natural Born Killer Full Member

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    The legend has returned! :lol:
     
  10. James23

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    Research, huh? Perhaps you mean watching all 68 PrideFC Events? Seeing every single PrideFC Fight? Did you even know there were 68 PrideFC Events? Maybe there isn't, maybe I just made that number up. Here, I'll let you count:

    http://lmgtfy.com/?q=List+of+PrideFC+Events

    I know exactly what I'm talking about, I'm talking about the mental gymnastics guys like you do. Your silly little post only further proves my point.
     
  11. Totus

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    The **** spouted about Fedor is laughable, we could go all day about this but a little dose of your own Medicne Arlovski who Fedor knocked out BRUTALLY...Knocked out a certain Iron chinned Roy Nelson...JDS, Mir, Werdum coudlnt knock him out, and he has but whipped alot of other UFC heavies.


    Cormier a top 5 heavy could only beat Monson by points, the same as an old Fedor.


    No man is invincible...Fedor was the main man for 7 years and 4 months....lets see this longevity with others first.
     
  12. Stoo

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    Damn, just realised Beekeeper posted for the 1st time in months and I didn't mention Aoki v Alvarez :patsch
     
  13. Haggis McJackass

    Haggis McJackass Semi-neutralist Overseer Full Member

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    Good post.

    I think the fanboy's line of reasoning pretty much boils down to:

    1) Cro-cop is the best striker ever and Fedor beat him. Therefore Fedor beats all strikers.

    2) Big Nog is the best BJJ guys ever and Fedor beat him. Therefore Fedor beats all BJJ/ground guys.

    Between those two categories, Fedor has it covered. He beats everybody who has ever competed, every time.

    :hat
     
  14. kokoko

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    Prime Fedor versus Current JDS. I would still give Fedor the edge, slightly.

    Current Fedor versus Current JDS. I give JDS the edge by a wide margin.
     
  15. uppa kut

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    F'n hilarious an OBVIOUS MMA NOOB.. Respect the GOAT.. If u watched MMA for more than 4 years u would know how stupid u sound..