Jean-Claude Van Damme

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  1. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    This is a serious question.

    With the recent revelation that is Lyoto Machida, I recall stories I've read about Van Damme when he was a karate practitioner.

    Apparently, he knocked out most of his opposition typically in the first couple of seconds of the first round and once took on the number two in the world and defeated him.

    If anybody here has any knowledge of Karate at all, how would that Van Damme fair in today's MMA climate, considering Lyoto just dominated "the man" using only Karate?
     
  2. Nuke

    Nuke Full Length Member Full Member

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    I didn't know VD ever fought, I thought I heard way back when he started movies that he was some kind of dancer that looked good on film so they mad him an action star.
     
  3. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Van Damme was the genuine article.

    He had a number of Karate fights, and his only loss he avanged with a quick knockout. And, as I say, he took on the then number 2 in the world and beat him. This all appears to be factual.
     
  4. Tuffnutz

    Tuffnutz ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    What do you mean "only karate"?

    Stop listening to Rogan talk ****.

    He used far more than Karate and Anderson Silva uses the absolue best striking art in the world which is Muay Thai, not Karate.
     
  5. Nuke

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    Shut it off:patsch
     
  6. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    ...As expected, you come in here giving it the big 'un and don't even address my question.
     
  7. Nuke

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    Don't pay that guy attention he hasn't a clue most times.


    I know nothing of VD other then I heard Chuck Zito KO'ed him in a bar or something, but I doubt thats true either. If he did have a real fight career I never heard sorry I can't help.
     
  8. Tuffnutz

    Tuffnutz ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    Shut what off? :lol:

    I think some people are forgeting which striking art is the best and who is the best at it.

    It ain't Karate and it ain't Lyoto Machida. :good
     
  9. Kestrel

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    Rogan knows his stuff, u not so much if u can't even distinguish Machida been using karate.
     
  10. Tuffnutz

    Tuffnutz ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    You said Lyoto dominated Evans by using only karate which is wrong.

    You are also forgetting that the true striking master in mma is Silva because he uses the best striking art on earth and he's mastered it and adapted it to mma.

    The best strikers of all time are Muay Thai fighters like Aerts and Hooste.

    Muay Thai is above karate.

    History has shown us this time and time again.

    If Anderson was naturally the same size as Machida and theyfought you would see this proven again.

    I judge all striking on Silva because he is the best in the history of the sport.

    Put VD in against a Muay Thaimaster and he gets beaten using karate.
     
  11. Tuffnutz

    Tuffnutz ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    The problem is that people are jumping on the karate bandwagon and going ott.

    None of those punches Machida used to ko Evans where Karate style.

    He used a combo of karate, boxing and wrestleing in the fight.

    Plus i will say it again, Muay Thai is the key for striking.

    Thats why Anderson is the daddy of striking and not Machida.
     
  12. Grievesy

    Grievesy Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He would have to train in some other aspects like a bit of BJJ and wrestling, even just how to defend submissions and takedowns, so he could keep the fight where he wants which is standing.

    If he doesn't cross-train even a little bit he gets either subbed, or taken down and beat on like every other scrub who thought they could be the best in MMA cos they'd seen Enter the Dragon and went to a few Karate classes.
     
  13. OuterDrake

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    All you see?he scared now! he sees the changes coming.

    No more bjj and muay thai.

    Now we got Karate!!!
     
  14. MaliSlamusrex

    MaliSlamusrex Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That's a stupid comment, no one goes out and think they are going out to strike Karate or Muay Thai.

    The basic principle of Karate is to go in and out without getting hit. The basic principle of Muay Thai is to score point with strikes.

    The massive advantage of Kratae is opening a guy up and the massive advantage of Muay Thai is finishing, they both have advantages no one is better it depends on your opponent and your own strenghts reach and chin. A taller guy is more likely to use Karate and a smaller guy more likley to use Muat Thai.

    VD might have been a decent Karate fighter, but he would have needed to be world class to compete in MMA. Machida has taken his world class Karate, and developed his Muay Thai, BJJ and takedown defence skills, and he would destroy VD because even if their Karate is equal Machida would take him down and submit him.

     
  15. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Absolutely.

    From all accounts, VD was a world class Karate practitioner, just a little harder to take seriously in light of his film career.