Jean Marc Mormeck vs David Haye

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  1. Dekkers

    Dekkers Team Bergeron Full Member

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    How do you rate Mormecks' chin Zakman?
     
  2. Dekkers

    Dekkers Team Bergeron Full Member

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    Here's Hayes' last performance against Bonin, impressive, despite the opponent. He won't be as strong against Jean-Marc, he was around 220 for the Bonin fight and didn't look soft at all.

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    Ring entrance cracks me up :lol:
     
  3. Snorkel

    Snorkel Active Member Full Member

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    Can I ask why you think Haye's an arrogant *****? I know he comes across as confident, but he doesn't talk trash about his opponents or anything to make me think him arrogant or, indeed, a *****.

    I actually think Haye has the skills advantage; he's capable of throwing all the shots on the inside and the outside.

    I'm favouring Haye as he has all the physical advantages but Mormeck can't be discounted here either. He's definitely got the power to worry Haye, but I think he might have to eat the biggest shots he's ever tasted to get close enough to use it.
     
  4. Dekkers

    Dekkers Team Bergeron Full Member

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    Outside I agree, but Mormecks' defence suits infighting far better. I also think Haye will be more drained than ever for this fight, so he might not carry huge physical advantages, particularly with strength and stamina.

    Mormecks' defence is also very good, when he gets more defensive it's very difficult to penetrate, if Haye lands big punches early and makes Mormeck fights more defensively, there's a big chance he'll be carried into the later rounds where he'll be vulnerable (especially due to the weight).
     
  5. Snorkel

    Snorkel Active Member Full Member

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    If Haye lands big punches early on, Mormeck's going to be out cold!

    I agree that Mormeck's a better fighter on the inside, but I think that's his only option here. Haye is ok on the inside, throwing nice compact shots for a man of his size and his body punching is great; he can hold his own here. However, if Haye wants to stay at range then he can do that too, using his speed and huge reach to 1-2 Mormeck all night. I can't see Mormeck winnning that kind of fight.

    I'm not too sure who this fight will favour if it goes late, Haye is drained at the weight but Mormeck's stamina is nothing to write home about either so I think a late stoppage is possible both ways. Should be a great fight whatever happens.
     
  6. Dekkers

    Dekkers Team Bergeron Full Member

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    If Mormeck decides to trade jabs with Haye, I think Haye is in for a shock, Mormeck has one of the best power jabs going, he can certainly use it to push inside against Haye, as well as make Haye think twice about trading jabs, even with Haye having an edge in speed. Mormeck is also a tough, tough guy, check out the Mormeck v Gurov highlights at the start of the thread, and Gurov can certainly crack. Bell only really got him out of there in the first fight due to exhaustion.

    Win's possible, but Haye's the underdog for me in this one. I know Mormecks' stamina isn't great, but I honestly think it's better than Hayes' at this weight, and if they start trading and going to war in the middle rounds, I think it's Haye that'll come off second best.
     
  7. nrgetic

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    Haye should be a firm favourite but I am very worried about the impact of him losing this weight, this could tip the balance in Mormecks favour and the odds reflect it is pretty much a 50:50 fight
     
  8. Snorkel

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    I actually think Haye would win a jabbing war. He has a very stiff jab himself (see the first he landed against Bonin for evidence) along with the reach and speed advantages. Mormeck may be able to jab his way in but equally, Haye might be able to keep him on the outside.

    Gurov certainly can crack but I honestly believe Haye is the biggest hitter in the division and by extension, the biggest hitter Mormeck's ever faced. Mormeck's power on the other hand is good, but I don't think he's stopping Haye with a single shot; Gurov went 8 and he's far chinnier than Haye.

    There's so many reasons I'm so excited and nervous for this fight. Haye has the edge in power, but can he crack Mormeck's chin? Mormeck's stamina is questionable but we don't know how much Haye's lost by killing himself to make 200 etc. Could easily be FOTY.
     
  9. Dekkers

    Dekkers Team Bergeron Full Member

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    Even if Haye loses it's not the end of the world, a lot of people will probably give him a fair bit of leeway since they feel he doesn't belong at cruiser anymore.
     
  10. David UK

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    Haye is really going to struggle to make Cruiser so I think he must get rid of Mormeck early and I think he will. Haye KO between 1-5
     
  11. Dekkers

    Dekkers Team Bergeron Full Member

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    I wonder what odds the bookies have on this one going the distance.
     
  12. El Bombasto

    El Bombasto Ask yo momma Full Member

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    mormeck by early tko
     
  13. nrgetic

    nrgetic Active Member Full Member

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    Paying $2.40 to go beyond round 10
     
  14. Asterion

    Asterion Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I actually want to watch this fight more than Calzaghe-Kessler.

    Haye TKO7 Mormeck :deal
     
  15. Max Molyneux

    Max Molyneux Liverpool Liver Tickler Full Member

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    As long Haye Isn't too badly drained, he will beat Mormeck.

    http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance/search/mormeck/video/xs3f7_mormeck-gurov_sport

    Mormeck looked troubled by Gurov and we know what Haye did to him. But It's the height and reach of Gurov that was giving him some success out boxing Mormeck.

    If Lesser fighters like Bell and Gurov don't find It hard to land on Mormeck then I think Haye can win as long as the weight doesn;t affect him too much.