Jean Pascal vs. Bernard Hopkins

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  1. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    The last big fight of 2010 is less than 7 weeks away, but there doesn't seem to be much buzz behind it.

    IMO, despite the built-in excuse of B-Hop's age, a win here will force the haters to finally acknowledge Pascal as a legitimate elite. In order to truly be "the man" in the division he'll still have to beat Cloud (another guy whose doubters are still legion, which beggars belief) - but after beating Hopkins he can no longer be written off.

    If Hopkins wins, alternately - he deserves a ton of credit. This will be the first time he's fought a young prime elite light heavyweight...well, ever. When you consider that he's fought three times in the last two years and only looked good once, he should be considered the underdog here (despite some still bizarrely holding him up on a pedestal as the reigning lineal champion at 175). Really decisively beating a hungry lion like Pascal would be a sweet dollop of icing on an already HOF-worthy legacy.

    How do people see it playing out? How will each man's strengths and weaknesses (intangible and otherwise) play in? How will styles?
     
  2. Maxime

    Maxime Sweet Science Full Member

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    Pascal already is THE man at 175lbs. He doesn't need to beat Hopkins or Cloud to prove it.
     
  3. PBFred

    PBFred Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Pascal wide, boring UD.
     
  4. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    From beating Dawson?

    You may feel that way, but certainly you can't be against the idea of him hammering the point home with wins over those two and silencing all the naysayers?
     
  5. Keueng

    Keueng Boxing Addict Full Member

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    And the fact that the fight will be a boring one is because of...

    (Everybody looking at B-Hop)
     
  6. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

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    I see Hopkins pulling this out using his experience.
    B-Hop will do everything he can to make this fight boring as hell, while racking up the pts.

    Pascal will be smothered and held more than an infant.
    Jean should take birth control before the fight.
     
  7. Ilesey

    Ilesey ~ Full Member

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    Pascal SHOULD hammer him but I get the feeling he wins it by a wide UD and has Hopkins down en route.
     
  8. Brownies

    Brownies Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I'm a worried Pascal fan. He's got talented and he's an entertaining fighter, but he's got many weaknesses to exploit... and Hopkins is one of the best weakness exploiter in the business. How will Pascal react when it will turn ugly ? We don't know.
     
  9. Keueng

    Keueng Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pavlik was a slowplodding coming forward fighter, easy and very predictable for B-Hop.
    But I can't see the old master dealing with the fast coming in rushes of the young champion!!
     
  10. Brickhaus

    Brickhaus Packs the house Full Member

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    I think Hopkins is toast, but if he wins, it wouldn't be the first time I thought he was toast and then pulled a rabbit out of his hat. He really looked like crap his last fight, but how much of that is because he's old and how much of that is because he's always fought down to the level of his opponents?

    Pascal by decision, but Hops makes it ugly and takes a few rounds, then claiming he was robbed afterwards.
     
  11. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    So nobody thinks a KO either way is in the cards?

    Hopkins will be less than a month shy of 46 and doesn't have the reflexes to avoid all of Pascal's quick offense.

    For his part, Pascal has shown a little vulnerability in the past - and while Hopkins isn't the type of big puncher you'd expect to exploit that he does have a stinging quality to his shots when there are mean intentions behind them and does have plenty of experiential knowledge of how to "execute" when someone's on the block.
     
  12. LancsTerrible

    LancsTerrible Different Forms of Game. Full Member

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    I'm going for Hopkins via KO. Why? I have no idea, I just want to believe B-Hop is going to finally score a KO for the first time in 6 years.
     
  13. Swarmer

    Swarmer Patrick Full Member

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    I just see Hopkins as too cagey to predict a KO against him. Guy's fundamentally sound skillset will once again help him at least look GOOD against another youth. I also think Hopkins has very little chance of getting a KO, he's not as hungry in the ring as before(Jones Hopkins II was really awful). I expect Pascal to use his speed to avoid significant damage as usual, and probably outscore Hopkins seeing as how it's in montreal. It's a shame really, i don't think he'd have a chance against the guy even 4 years back.

    Lame fight. But it'll be good for Pascal's career, he's fighting a name and he'll no doubt get great experience.
     
  14. Dracon

    Dracon Frédéric Bastiat Full Member

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    Pascal showed vulnerability???:huh His chin, you mean? He took the bombs of Froch, Diaconu x2 and that huge uppercut from Dawson and stayed on his feet. He's never been down in the pro or in the amateurs and has AT LEAST a granite chin in my opinion.

    He may even have a better chin than Froch (remember the middleweight Taylor was able to floor him). Hell, 95% of boxers today wouldn't have survived to the blows he received against Pittman!

    I think he'll be the first to stop B-Hop, who'll be totally exausted at the end. It will be competitive at the beginning but I expect Jean to Knock him out around the 12th rd.:bbb
     
  15. KERRIGAN

    KERRIGAN Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pascal by KO, Father Time finally catches up with Hopkins.