Jeet Kune Do:The Way of the Intercepting Fist. Bruce Lee technique & philosophy VIDS

Well it's pissing me off. Why do you refuse to acknowledge real martial art pioneers like these?

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1hmh9_bart-vale-kos-ken-shamrock_fun

http://www.searchforvideo.com/watch...&searchterm=%2Fsports%2Fufc%2Fpat-miletich%2F

 

The above was an inside joke between sugarngold and myself. It was not meant to start a debate, it was for humor only.

 

I remembered seeing it when I was searching for some different footage some time ago, and thinking the ko looked a lot like a pro wrestling match knock out. I was waiting for Vale to pin him for the 3 count. I'm not questioning its validity, just thought it looked that way.

Before I posted that link; I just google Bart Vale's name, and there it was again.

 

Very interesting Vids of the great man, he is a true legend of the art.

 

Bruce Lee was very possibly the first true mixed martial artist. That said, he PROBABLY doesn't stand a chance in todays MMA world. Early MMA events often had only the rule of no eye gouging, and I'm not sure he would even beat a Royce at UFC 1.

Those videos are nice, but unrealistic for any sort of practice drill. I mean, it is extremely unwise to assume you can land a side kick perfectly on the first strike when you are being attacked unknowingly and that you can down an opponent. Even Lee himself has a tall order with that one.

 

I see where you are coming from, but I think you need to consider a few things.

I don't think Bruce Lee would care anything about being in today's mma scene anymore than he cared about competing in organized fighting when he was alive.

I don't know if would have taken Lee's watching of UFC I to discover BJJ. The Gracie's had a challenge that was known by some in the martial arts world, and talk of their work work probably reached and interested Lee before the 90's. Gracie In Action, the video series, was out in the 80's. The Gracies were well enough established to help choreograph the final fight scene in Lethal Weapon.

The first couple of videos in sugarngold's post are from volume I of a book Lee co-authored. Those were beginning self defense techniques that a student would later be taught tools to follow up with as needed. No technique is going to be effective every time. A side kick will not win every fight for you, just as an armbar will not.

I know you did not say that a sidekick could not be effective, I'm just stating the following as recent evidence for its effectiveness. Cung Le used the sidekick as a weapon all fight long against one of mma's best, Frank Shamrock. Cung used other effectve techniques as well, as the sidekick is merely one tool of the many he possesses.

 

Not by any stretch of the imagination.

 

Great thread. :good
Bruce is the man.

 

I train at what I would call a JKD concepts gym where there is a basic curriculum and then a bunch of specialty classes that you can take depending on what you like. There are also Jun Fan classes based on what Lee himself was into in his day. There are some people who are really into it, but when we all spar they never seem to use the trapping/backfist/trip stuff they do in Jun Fan. Do any of you guys who practice that stuff get it to work in regular kickboxing/mma sparring? The only time I see that stuff “work” is in the kind of canned set up demos like the vid in this thread.

 

i hope ur joking thinking bruce lee would be one of the top mma fighters. also if u took bruce right out of his time he wouldnt do well against a UFC fighter in teh street either.

 

That's a joke right? As in haha?:blood

 

I'd say its a pretty valid observation.