Jeet Kune Do:The Way of the Intercepting Fist. Bruce Lee technique & philosophy VIDS

What a joke.

Take a thai boxer from the same time period, and Lee wouldn't wake up.

 

He actually ko'ed a Thaiboxer on the set of the filming of the big bosss, it was confirmed by a director who saw the fight. Besides, Bruce incorporated Thaiboxing in his style Jeet Kuno Do. The whole point I was trying to make was his explosive speed seperated him from everyone else. If you don't think speed doesn't account for anything, than take a look at roy jones in his prime, who had bad technique, but his speed made him overcome techinical mishaps. Bruce had great techinque to go along with his blinding speed. I don't think too many guys get in on him(unless there very fast) without getting tagged with some meaningful punches or kicks. Anyway, we can argue all day about it, we'll never know.

 

A friend of mines knows Jeet Kuno Do, and he actually went to seatle to get his black belt from one of Bruce Lee's ex students and met Bruce Lee's wife in the process to get honored. He is very good and I've seen him workout with some good martial artist's. One was kick boxer and Muai Thai stylist and he caught both MA's in a knot by trapping their arms to show how effective it can be against striking. Only time trapping isn't effective is when someone trying to grapple but that is the reason for Jeet Kuno Do, so it's not just original froms of wing chun, it's other blends of fighting. You can even apply a choke after trapping and countering a persons punch but you obviously would have to be real good at it the way my boy is. He makes it look easy.

 

Men have been punching each other since man existed, every last nuance of punching has been discovered and distilled down to what works, effectively, against another man; and yet nobody who gets paid to punch, ever traps.

 

Thank you, I was getting ready to say the same. It's just like saying wing chun wouldn't be effective just cause no martial artist used it effectivily in MMA. But logic tells you that, it's not the style of the fighter that makes the fight but rather fighter that makes the style. Just cause one fighter couldn't use it effectivily, doesn't mean the other fighter couldn't.

But the thing is, nobody has ever even tried to use sidekicks, until Cung Le came into MMA. That right there should make more Martial Artists more open minded to other techniques, instead of limiting oneself to what you see all the time. Cung Le, like Bruce Lee, uses the sidekick very effectivily, and he did it against one of the best submission ground fighters of all time in frank shamrock.

And yes, Randy Couture's dirty boxing hand on the neck is part of trapping, this tells me you've studied the art of trapping, cause you know a lot about it. If Randy can make that effective, than a well rounded martial artist who was real good at it, would demolish a stand up fighter would the technique.

 

Didn't muay thai precede all of this? It was a well developed sport. by the time of the nineteenth century.

As for for martial art,with the combination of striking and grappling,you have military systems of krav maga and combat sambo by the middle of the twentieth century after the second world war and of course you have jujitsu.

As for MMA,if you want to go really back in time,you have pankration of the ancient Greeks over 2000 years ago.

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As for Joe Lewis he has said some things,which may be interpreted as not being totally worshipful of Bruce.
http://www.bruceleedivinewind.com/joelewis.html

"DW Forum - I read a story about Bruce going over to your house and not being impressed with the size of your heavy bag and called it a girls bag, and I think he asked Herb Jackson was it, to make him a man sized man. It weighed 700lbs and if I remember the story correctly you along with Bob Wall set it up for him and then hid in a bush. Bruce kicked it and landed in a heap. I hope I've got this all right or else I'll look like a bit of a dip Anyway can you remember this day and what did you think when he kicked the bag and landed on the floor. Did he ever move the big bag at all, what was his sidekick power like on the bag?
Joe Lewis - I do not remember much about that 700 pound bag. It sounds like one of those old rumors. Bruce had a good fast side kick but if you watch some of those old atapes, you can tell he always lunged from too great a distance. This makes the bag move but throws your timing way off. You need to be close to the tirget when you fire so your reaction time and your response time are quick, not just one. Timeing speed is both.You should never work with a bag weighing more than l00 pounds, and I mean never. If anyone tells you different, they do not know what they are talking about. Bannana bags are different for the low cut kicks.
DW Forum - Lately I've heard things like "Bruce Lee could hit seven times in a second"...I personally believe it is crap. I mean how could anybody test speed of punches without todays fast-cameras and all that stuff?I'm told my wing chun instructor punches seven hits on a second (in the air of course).Have you heard of it? I guess it's a proof of a quickness....maybe Bruce talked about it?
Joe Lewis -

Please, drop all the stuff you've heard.

Martial arts is full of nonsense. Only believe what you have seen or can prove.


Show me more than three real punches in a second and I will kiss your butt. ON film, Ali's jab took 7 frames to complete, and Sugar Ray's took 9 frames. A second of film takes 24 frames. Simple math guys. Three real punches per second and that is it. Less talk and more proof. Let's get in the ring and show off some of these secrets. They pay millions of dollars. That beats eating rice all your life and teaching martial arts forever anytime?"

 

That is pretty cool, you can only see the very end of the liver kick that knocks him down though.

 

I guess the way I see this is that nobody who fights anyone ELSE who gets paid to punch (or trains heavily in it...you know what I mean) ever traps. When I see traps used is when there are hands out there in range to be trapped; good punchers learn right away to bring their hands back very quickly and this seems to limit trapping opportunities. Also, if I saw someone trying to grab in the way needed to trap, the first thing I'd do is throw a feint and see what's open.

It seems that there is a great deal of martial arts that is mostly only effective against people who aren't good at fighting. So far, trapping seems to me to fit into this category.

 

A professional kickboxer? What was his name.What was he doing on the set of a Hollywood film. Do you have a link for what you just stated?I thought it was just a extra on the set.The story keeps changing as they usually do with Lee so as to make the story more lustrous to his legend.

Roy Jones had perfect punching technique to go with his reflexes and fast footwork my friend.The way he punched may he used as a model to teach beginners.Incidentally,Roy also has 57 professional fights and hundred of amateur fights to hone his craft.

Worthless without any well documented competitive fights.These demonstrations put on for the public seems like the choreographed aikido demonstrations I see on youtube.The relationship they have to MMA is the same as that of professional wrestling to actual grappling.A lot of the techniques are spectacular to look at and lethal against non-professionals,but discarded by the vast majority of actual practitioners.

 

What I'm talking about when I say "trapping" is not dirty boxing or Thai clinch, it's the methods used off of blocking punches, usually demonstrated from the "bridge" reference point. The "pac sau (sp?)" sort of stuff that looks great when the hands are left out there. I would LOVE to be able to pull that sort of thing off when I'm training, and I may try if I ever see an opportunity. You could of course say that I'm not seeing the openings because I don't work it as hard as I should, and you may very well be right. Here's the thing; when I see someone better than me work their angles and slips in boxing, I work on them and know how they should work, and after a while they start to work for me. When I keep getting caught with kick after kick and can't land mine, I watch what the other guy does and try to emulate that, and it gets better. I don't have that reference point for trapping. Do you have any competitive footage of this sort of thing working?