Jeet Kune Do:The Way of the Intercepting Fist. Bruce Lee technique & philosophy VIDS

Wing Chun wont ever be effective in MMA because the striking is simply not polished enough. There is very little emphasis on using the legs and the hand strikes are in some cases open palm strikes or just simple centre line punching in a rapid fashion. Nice to watch but in a real fight not that effective for incapacitating your opponent quickly. That being said Wing Chun is still a VERY effective MA that employs traditional styles and techniques. When i used to train we were often told to work and spar with boxers to improve and adapt our striking techniques. Ironically the cross arm (Old school method of blocking punches) is very similar to blocks used in Wing Chun. The emphasis though is more on knowing anatomy as in where to hit an opponent to hurt them ( hence the centre line ) and reacting to touch (hence techniques like sticky fingers) and building those neural pathways so that you know how to react to certain strikes without even thinking about it. It gets alot more interesting as you move up the levels and start using weapons. But like most traditional styles of Gung Fu its not really applicable to street combat. BUT its far more practical that theatrical styles like Wu Shu.

 

Eye jabs will never be allowed in MMA. There are some strikes in Wing Chun that can maim you possibly permanently espcially the downwards strikes to knee caps. They cant be practised with full contact for obvious reasons.

 

I definetly don't feel like getting into this again but here's my take on some things you said:


Like suargnold had already pointed out, Lee did train with world champions. Lee has already pointed out all the different benefits of cross training and not limiting yourself to one style, infact his style is purely that in itself. You just pointed out that GSP trains with olympic wrestlers but you forgot to mention that GSP also didn't have a wrestling pedigree and he dominated guys who did. So just cause a fighter doesn't have a pedigree in a certain style doesn't mean(in GSP's case it proves it's point)that the fighter couldn't execute the techinques as good as somebody who train specificly in that one style, considering the fighter trains and works with somebody who's good at it.
Bruce Lee was not only a very intelligent martial Artist with a very good Martial Arts IQ, but he was a fast learner as well and if you have examined Bruce Lee's history like you so boldly make it out to be, than you'd know this.

And Bruce Lee might have not worked harder, but he worked just as hard in the Arts, as much as anybody else. The amount of training, research, and stuff he put his body thru wasn't just for show. The problem with you is, your basing everything off competitions and making it seem like just cause a martial artist didn't compete in a certain arena that he wouldn't last, which isn't true at all. There's plenty of martial artists that don't compete in the ufc, that nobody has heard of and would annilate the guys we do know and it also tells me you have a limited way of thinking in that matter.

And Bruce Lee has had plenty of challenge matches, not just when he came to america but when he trained under Yip Man his wing chun sifu. He would have rooftop battles in Hong Kong with another training partner named William Cheung who also trained under Yip Man. Even one of Bruce's quotes he said that knowing is not enough, we must apply. Trust me, he was way ahead of the game on these things.

You also forgot to mention that they didn't have any MMA events, K-1, or the stuff we got today back than in his time, so all there were, was either street fights or challenges matches, which would of been very hard to capture on camera in those days because cameras were very expensive and hard to get at that time period. Even some of the high profile events they didn't have on film. Now I know Bruce Lee was human but he was special. If he wasn't, we still wouldn't be talking about him today. You have your opinion on the hypethical fights with Lee, but you spend more time bashing him and trying prove a point of why he's not that good and I see it in all your posts regarding Bruce Lee. One things for sure though, none of the fighters that compete in MMA has Bruce's blinding speed and that's one of the biggest key ingredients too all great fighters, is speed. Even boxing proves that. Usually the guys with tremedous speed that move up in weight do very well, but the punchers don't because they try and bang with bigger and stronger guys.

But this debate should be put bed because everybody is gonna have a different opinion on this and sugarnold I see you must actually train in the arts with an openmind because you give credit where credit is due.

 

Your also giving an opinion of a former fighter, who's probably had many of predictions wrong on fights or fighters. The so called experts even get tons of fights wrong.

 

This is a debate that will never have an answer, or an end since Lee died over 35 years ago YIKES.

What Lee did was come along at a time that was just right, and was a catalyst for a martial arts craze, and ended up becoming the lead catalyst.

He inspired folks, got them involved with the help of the media at that time.

Absorb what is usefull, was not a new concept but he was the right person at the right time, with a platform and skills, that folks could see. Were others folks better fighters, more knowledgeable etc. maybe. does it matter.

Might it had happened otherwise, maybe probably, who knows.

Lee came along at the right time, and most of modern martial arts popularity are due to that.

Could have he beaten joe smith today in an MMA bout is not the issue. Is that really relavent, can a Spartan beat a Samurai? It's not the point.

He was the guy that inspired allot of what is today. And for that we should all be happy.

 

Didn't you start this debate? Just saying......

 

Fair enough.

I've never bought into the whole spiritual side or whatever or really just never paid much attention. Like when I did Taekwondo, the doing all the patterns or pumsae as the Koreans call it was never really my thing. I just wanna know the best way to kick a guy in the head (and look really badass doing it).:smoke

Looking back on it though, I miss it. That's why I'm looking around for a Muay Thai gym in my area. These martial arts are excellent just to stay in shape, aswell as learning self defence.