Jeff Fenech - Your Honest Opinions of him

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Peterp, Dec 20, 2007.


  1. flamengo

    flamengo Coool as a Cucumber. Full Member

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    With 3 World Title belts, a shocking DRAW in Vegas (first USA appearance since '84) a basic ownership of Canastota by the WBC regarding Modern Inclusions, it's hardly a testimony mate. Think about it.

    Re: The interviewed personalities. Does it occur to DSS Team that these mentioned names are limited in Australian boxing history, and have little particular knowledge of it? 'HISTORY' dating way back into the '80s...... No, no.. not 1980's.. the 1880's!!

    Did you happen to ask the 'Colonel' about his own understanding of which Aussies created International Headlines, before 'The Colonel' began talking into a ringside microphone as a commentator in the early 1970's?

    Larry Merchant, Michael Buffer, Bob Arum, Emaunual Steward?

    The named men are well entrenched in Boxing, and known globally... but again, do any of these guys know the 1960's, 50's, 40's or anything dating further back about Australian boxing history??

    Perhaps asking the boxing Historians in the USA about Australian fighters will offer a different insight/response?? Perhaps not.

    Team.. You guys have your opinion, the interviewed Boxing USA Pillars have their opinion and I have my opinion. I've been very liberal in the response. :good
     
  2. shiner

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    awesome fighter
    crap trainer unless they are his style
    good for oz bozing as brings profile
    actually a very generous man
    needs to learn some social skills
     
  3. FORMIDABLE

    FORMIDABLE Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Great boxer. A Legend. People question his opposition, but you can't manufacture what he did. Had he justly been given the decision in the first Azumah Nelson fight he would've been a four division champ, 26-0, at the age 27. He was never the same after that fight. His achievements though probably won't ever be matched by another Aussie grown fighter.

    As a trainer I don't think too much of him. He's taken quite a few guys to big fights, but they all lose badly when they get there. And I've noticed in many of those fights his fighters refused to listen to him and just ignored him in the corner. If his fighters don't respect him or have confidence in him in their biggest fights, that speaks volumes...

    As a person he's turned out to be quite the scumbag. Seems he's always been in trouble. I remember even as a kid hearing how he beat up a green grocer with a bunch of thugs. There was that pathetic watch stealing incident, getting his face sliced up with a broken bottle by lebo drug dealers, the drive by shooting and the reported contract on his head..wouldn't surprise me if it was true that he was dealing drugs for a bikie gang as mentioned here.. he seems a dodgy character to say the least
     
  4. DaSweetScience

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    I'm positive their knowledge of Australian boxing is spotty. Americans don't know much outside America in any chosen field so boxing experts are no different.

    They don't care about our domestic scene or Europe.

    America is where the superfights happen and for them you havent made it until you come to Vegas, LA NYC or New Jersey.

    We asked the question and its always interesting to see who cuts through and who of our boys garners major respect in the boxing capital.

    Fenech, Harding, Vic and Kostya are widely known and loved legends because they stepped it up in America.

    Duran raved about Hector Thompson as a hard punching warrior.

    When Katsidis came into the media centre he got swarmed by Mexican journos for interviews. They think he is the new Gatti.

    With the risk of stepping up in America comes great return.

    All of the journos had little or no idea about Mundine despite his high media profile in Australia.
     
  5. flamengo

    flamengo Coool as a Cucumber. Full Member

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    With respect DSS.. I actually wrote the post for the sake of shitting in the faces of the 'experts' you mentioned. Yes, the USA names mentioned are very highly touted and appear as commentaters, 'special comments men' and produce quality analysis of fights and events.. yet, in asking them to name a set of 10 Aussie greats before 1970 would leave them in a quandry... 'The Colonel' especially... The slob has no idea at all. (Darcy??)

    I found a great report regarding Tony Mundine/Monzon which I attempted to post twice in the last half hour... Fkning wireless B/Band has switched of on both attempts of sending.. GRRR!!!.. I'll try again..
     
  6. DaSweetScience

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    The Colonel is a great man who doesnt purport to be a historian - he is a blow by blow caller and has done 800 odd title fights so he can't be a complete misfit.

    Unfortunately not everyone shares our zeal for Australian boxing history with its rich tapestry of hard men, champions and characters.

    My kiwi mates have never heard of Darcy and they are just across the pond.

    The kids don't read books these days, Darcy on youtube is grainy.

    A 6 part miniseries or a non cheesy movie would get the story out there.
     
  7. flamengo

    flamengo Coool as a Cucumber. Full Member

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    Re: The Colonel... Stavros' cousin Jim (Guissepie) has sold 3000 used cars.. that doesn't make him a Formula 1 Driver. :D:D

    You're spot on about a Darcy series being neccessary, and long overdue mate. Peter Fenton's effort was nothing short of brilliant, as was the opener of 'That's boxing'. Darcy, in short, mid range or feature length styled Doco's is still hard driven to be justified.. So many facts seem lamb based with irony and colourful make up throughout his short life. The Govenment need to provide appropriate funds for the sake of a movie length Doco... as much as the WW1 Australian Governmental ideals will appear fatally flawed, the axis of Darcy's own tragedy has to be known today... to all.