Jeff Horn & his scumbags tried to drag Paulie Malignaggi out of retirement

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  1. lepinthehood

    lepinthehood When I'm drinking you leave me well alone banned Full Member

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  2. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Wait.... close fight? Hmmmm.

    It sounds like you used clear sound logic when coming to this decision.:lol:
     
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  3. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    Pac beat Horn's arse! At least Teddy Atlas told the truth, lost his job because he went against the powers that be in boxing! Boxing is corrupt, crooks do not like the truth!
     
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  4. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Atlas is a biased EE hating wackjob who's word should never be trusted on anything.
     
  5. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    Who's trusting Teddy's word? I have my own two eyes and am not stupid enough to believe that Horn won that fight! Hell, the ref was going to stop it, call it a TKO win for Pac! It was not even a close fight! Pac is in another class than Horn, who can't fight at all.............
     
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  6. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Well he didn't stop it, and he shouldn't have, that was obvious after Horn came back and won the last 3 rounds. So therefore it wasn't a TKO victory for Pac, having one huge round isn't enough to negate all the really close rounds that Horn either edged on activity and overall just beating Pac's ass from side of the ring to the other.
     
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  7. Farmboxer

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    What close rounds? You do not give Horn points for headbutting, wrestling, holding, elbowing, you give points to the fighter who lands the clean punches, as Pac did. Horn has been advised to stay away from Crawford as Crawford will murder him, knock that crooked fraud out....................Horn had better cash out ASAP, because he will get knocked out if he doesn't..................

    I will agree that Usyk is the best cruiserweight living today, he should win the tournament and possibly go up to heavyweight later one day, nobody beats him at cruiserweight......................Lomachenko is the most skilled fighter fighting today, by far...................Golovkin can box, cut off the ring, etc., but Horn is just not in their class................I can't see it. I told Bob Bennett the same thing about Horn................Teddy lived with Cus D'Amato, Tyson, Kevin Rooney, watched boxing films, learned from a great trainer who made Tyson, I sometimes did not like Atlas, but he told the truth about Horn and Byrd. Byrd is a total disgrace and should never be judging a fight, but as Teddy warned us, she is judging fights right now! 10 - 2 for El Pollo?! Not even Oscar had that score. I have his number if you want to call him............
     
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  8. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    He has Loma P4P number one and did so before the Rigo fight he also trained Povetkin.
     
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  9. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    Our round by rounds might not be the best indicator of which way the wind blows. As I recall, when people made a poll, went around to other websites to see how they saw the fight, or listed reporters scores things were like 2/3 Pac to 1/3 Horn.
     
  10. Kiwi_in_America

    Kiwi_in_America The Tuaminator Full Member

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    Horn all the way...

    Judges and commissioners - all were sure of it.

    Watch it again with the SOUND DOWN
     
  11. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    I don't think either myself or IntentionalButt have anything to gain by scoring simultaneously on the same RBR the match for Jeff Horn, via the identical score, and almost turning in identical scorecards, we differed on rounds 4 and 5, and had we both been in agreement, it would have swung the match 115-113 Horn or possibly 117-111 Horn, but neither scorecard would have been for Pacquiao still. And add to that I was submitting my score before IB sometimes, and he was submitting his before me sometimes, so its not like we copied each others scorecard. He and I and a few other scorers clearly saw the match for Horn, it was not even close to a robbery, still not sure why anyone would think it was a robbery, still not sure who had anything to gain from a robbery in a match that was supposed to be an easy win, there's no scenario whatsoever that would point in that direction, and anyone who comes up some harebrained conspiracy as to why are deluding themselves. I think most fans experienced widespread cognitive dissonance and went into shock at what they were witnessing and they lost the ability to think straight afterward. We have a precedent just in the last year for this sort of stuff happening. Look at the result of the 2016 Presidential Election, half the country went bat**** and have convinced themselves that the Russians by buying a few thousand dollars in Facebook ads swung the entire election to Donald Trump.:lol: And have now set on a course to destroy any chance we could have at working with Putin and if it comes to WW3, oh well what the hell, no big deal. Its that important for some people to convince themselves of something that is in reality, not feasible in the least, because facing the truth, the sure thing Pac and Hillary, indeed LOST to Horn and Trump, is too much for their fragile little minds to bear.:lol:

    Write off Horn at your own peril with Crawford as well. Not sure where all the hate this regular Joe is getting is coming from, its pretty elitist and yes kind of despicable IMO.

    My scorecard
    Round 1 Horn 10-9
    Round 2 Horn 10-9
    Round 3 Pacquiao 10-9 Close
    Round 4 Horn 10-9 Close
    Round 5 Pacquiao 10-9 Close
    Round 6 Horn 10-9
    Round 7 Horn 10-9 Close
    Round 8 Horn 10-9 Close
    Round 9 Pacquiao 10-9
    Round 10 Horn 10-9
    Round 11 Pacquiao 10-9 Close
    Round 12 Horn 10-9 10-9

    116-112 Horn

    @IntentionalButt's scorecard.
    Round 1 10-9 Horn
    Round 2 10-9 Horn, but closer.
    Round 3 10-9 Pac, close.
    Round 4 10-9 Pac
    Round 5 10-9 Horn
    Round 6 10-9 Horn
    Round 7 10-9 Horn, goddamn.
    Round 8 10-9 Horn v close, messy round
    Round 9 10-9 Pac, huge comeback.
    Round 10 10-9 Horn, close
    Round 11 10-9 Pac quiao, close
    Round 12 10-9 Horn

    116-112 Horn
     
  12. CST80

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    Good for him, that doesn't erase the incessant Klitschko bashing and non stop EE bashing or snippy little passive aggressive digs at every other EE fighter he's come across that I can remember.
     
  13. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    No maybe not, but damn it, I'll put IB and I's scorecards against anyone, and yes, I am being that pompous and no I don't care if anyone disagrees. Our scorecards are regularly far closer to the actual scores than most professional judges. That probably has something to do with neither of us being paid off by promoters on a weekly basis, because no one cares about what we think aside from the denizens of ESB to waste their time with us. But if we tried our hands at it professionally, I bet the palm greasing moolah would come pouring in.
     
  14. OvidsExile

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    I'd bribe you all day every day, bro.
     
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  15. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    Atlas & Malignaggi are the best analysts in the game right now.