I have explained before everything Ward does is tactical and calculated he is a smart fighter. Horn is just a limited scrappy fighter that knows no other way to fight. I am surprised you would compare a limited fighter like Horn to an all time great like Ward, I thought you knew better. No surprise that a mong like stiflersmum did though that ass clown has been on these forums for 15 years and still doesn't know **** about boxing. He just race baits and alludes to homo sexual activity.
Horn is garbage. The only reason he survived 12 rounds is cause he didn't really box, he just outright wrestled. Used the John Ruiz tactic and more. This content is protected Which of those exactly is a "boxing" move? Pac is shorter than Horn, so he has to get in, when he gets in, Horn hugs him and headlocks him. Not being sour but seriously, it's like someone being allowed to low blow without consequence and then people praising it as though it is part of boxing.
I think he's saying that, differences in style and class level aside, if your chief vocalized complaint regarding Horn is that he's dirty, it strikes most as ironic that you are so ardently supportive of Ward. Prefer his style or not, think he's 1,000x better than Horn or not, you have to acknowledge he's the dirtier man.
Andre Ward is a great fighter but dirty. Jeff used rough tactics to put Pac off his game sure it's not a tickling contest as Ricky Hatton says. AW leaves Jeff for dead when it comes to dirty tactics and he raves on about Pac being robbed but says nothing about the first Ward-Kovalev fight. I think he hates on anglo Aussies for some reason and deights in their failure e.g Bivol-Broadhurst so when one is successful it gets on his nerves.
Ha ha now he will say you DKSAB. Though I had it closer than that 115-113 either way close but no robbery.
Okay, no, you don't have to acknowledge my say-so just by virtue of it being me (nor that of the entire rest of the boxing fan community, of whom I'm willing to bet more than nine in ten would agree Ward is dirtier than Horn) but if you're going to challenge that statement and want to be taken seriously you do need to provide time-stamped video evidence of Horn's dirty tactics and be prepared for a side-by-side foul-by-foul breakdown with a randomly selected Ward fight of the same length.
Wait, so what does he prefer? Quarter of nine? Or just "quarter nine"? Quarter nine sounds way too weird to me. Quarter of/til/to are used interchangeably here.
LOL apart from Pac, Horn has fought nothing but bums or completely washed up fighters. There is absolutely no comparison to be made. Ward changes his tactics based on which world class fighter he is in with. Horn just fights the same way every time it was only because Manny was beating him up that we saw his dirty fighting get even worse as it was the only way he could survive. In Horn's other fights he has been physically stronger than the bums and pensioners so we didn't get to see his desperation as much.
Fouling has been a well documented hallmark of Ward's style ever since his ShoBox days. Literally a majority of threads about Ward, if you were to cull the data, have been either polemics against or defenses of his style, vis-a-vis how dirty everyone perceives it to be. Horn did what exactly before Pac to gain a reputation as dirty? Oh, nothing really? With the excuse being that it only shone through versus Pac because he was "desperate" (even though he seemed physically stronger than Pac to my eyes, and to most observers' - and was doing plenty else to feel confident about in the fight as the massive underdog bringing the fight to a fading legend and making him visibly uncomfortable)? Yet we rationalize Ward's behaviors as "changing tactics based on which fighter he was in with"? Hmm, guess Ward "just felt like changing tactics" (is that really just a polite way of saying "desperate"?) on dozens of separate occasions then.