Jeff Mayweather: Carbajal = Pacquiao = Red Flag

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Sweet Pea Pacquiao, Apr 8, 2010.


  1. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    No, i'm out in california now.
     
  2. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    yeah, huh!!



    Dick smooch some more, clown.
     
  3. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :rofl Are you kidding me Nall????:? For real??? So you are telling me that PAC is now in shape and that is what is fooling the rest of society into thinking that manny is night and day in terms of where he is now vs pre Roach? What we see in Manny today with regards to him being "complete" as a fighter....vs what we saw in Manny overall as a fighter 9 or 10 yrs ago is incredible. I dont know if you are serious or ****ing around.....:blood
     
  4. NALLEGE

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    I don't know where the **** your thinking is:lol:, but being in boxing shape, and able to go 12 rounds punching without getting tired makes a big difference in your fight game. The last two posts I responded to that you wrote show that you are creating your own scenario of questions to answer. What I've seen happen to PAc has happened to many a boxer, not just PAc. No offense Chuck, but you've never fought pro, so your eyes tell you one thing while my eyes tell me another.
     
  5. NALLEGE

    NALLEGE Loyal Member banned

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    Rudy knows you're a fake tough guy also clown... I truly don't know why i talk boxing with you Imus Jr...lol
     
  6. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    You don't talk boxing with anyone.

    You were seriously voted the worst poster on this forum at some point for lying about being a world champion.
     
  7. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :lol: I didn't doubt you'd be clueless on where I was in thought on this topic.:rofl Manny would always throw a lot....but now, vs then we see a wide variety of things from Manny, and at a very high level. Before it would be the right jab, straight left combo, with a few right, lefth hooks to the body from Manny, and that was very raw and unpolished....It's hard to believe you don't actually see that.....

    You fought pro Nall? Much respect if that is true. And no offense taken at all. I just fail to agree that b/c you faught pro and I only fought AM that you have a different set of eyes. I'm a student of boxing and martial arts....have been since I was 4. While I won't say I'm an expert...I do know a good deal about boxing and all the elements that embody the sweet science. I sometimes "get it wrong" when talking about boxing, but more times than not I'm right....this is no different here.
     
  8. Gander Tasco

    Gander Tasco Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    ^ Nallege is a troll. It's plainly ****ing obvious that Manny has improved tremendously. His whole game has been revamped. I've already explaioned it 100 times so I'm not going to again. If you know boxing, you'll see exactly what I'm talking about. Whether you boxed pro or not doesn't make a lick of difference. A lot of guys box pro and don't know **** about boxing. Charlie Zelenoff boxed pro, do I need to go on? All it takes is a pair of eyes to see, unless your blind.
     
  9. pejevan

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    According to Divac, PEDS allows you to practice and perfect your skill for longer period of hours, therefore PEDS make you skillfully greater.

    You really can't win any argument in ESB as haters will always be haters, although you dissected those knockdowns perfectly.
     
  10. Cobra33

    Cobra33 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Didn't Pac turn pro at like 16 years of age?Because if he did his body was still growing.
     
  11. bigdog2001

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    Did you read the damm article. I'm not saying manny is the only one using this. Alot of europeans have been using this along with epo, hgh in their stack. I personally used this stuff and it works miracles. i was already i decent shape as i have worked out all of my life but this stuff made me super fast and strong.

     
  12. Sweet Pea Pacquiao

    Sweet Pea Pacquiao Boxing Addict Full Member

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    NALLEGE once stated on this board he was a former world champion.

    Credibility destroyed. STFU.
     
  13. bigdog2001

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    haha good try fellas. Shows how ignorant you are in the new line of
    PEDS. They said you can't teach an old dog new tricks. Well it somewhat applies to boxing. Just look at this drug that i have personally used. I swear this **** made me quicker and stronger. the only difference i don't compete for money. I have always been in decent shape cause i have worked out my whole life. This stuff is for real. We need to expose alot of fighters that take this along with epo and hgh. Mainly European fighthers and fighters here in the states with a high interest.


    by Anthony Roberts - Insulin-like growth factor 1 is a growth factor which is very closely related to insulin. It carries the same amount of amino acids as insulin and responsible for the anabolic reactions to GH. IGF-1 is an important factor in childhood growth and is highly anabolic in adults. It is also known by the brand name Increlex and the generic name mecasermin.
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    In the 1970's, IGF-1 was known as as "Sulfation Factor" and "Nonsuppressible Insulin-like Activity" (NSILA). In the 1980's, it was known as "Somatomedin C." The most popular type of IGF-1 available on the Black Market is a longer lasting version (more amino acids in length) known as Long R3 Insulin-like Growth Factor-I or Long R3IGF-I. Lr3igf-1 is more potent than the lesser versions which are no longer available on the black market. Of that type of IGF, there are two types commonly available (Media and Receptor grades, respectively). These last two types of IGF mostly just refer to the purity of what is actually in the bottle.
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    IGF-1 is released in the liver and binds to the IGF receptors within the cells, which ultimately causes a stimulation of cell growth (both causing new tissue formation and existing tissue growth) and an inhibition of cell death. It is a highly anabolic and anti-catabolic compound. For the athlete or bodybuilder, this had many positive effects: increased nitrogen retention and protein synthesis because it is highly anabolic. IGF-1 (in the presence of sufficient protein) actually promotes growth of new muscle cells, which increases the overall number of cells in the muscle.
    IGF protects the neurons of the brain as well as promotes growth of new motor neurons, making it more possible to rapidly learn new skills during its use. IGF-1 is also responsible in connective tissue production, improves collagen formation and aids in cartilage repair. Similarly, it affects the bones by aiding in bone production and repair.
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    In a study done on young adult mice, a compound responsible for increased secretion of IGF-1 in muscle fibers was administered. There was an average increase of 15% in muscle mass and a 14% increase in strength. When the study was then conducted on adult mice, there was a 27% increase in strength in the injected muscles as compared with non-injected muscles. It was also found to prevent aging of the muscles. Muscle mass and muscle fiber growth were similar to the levels found in young adults. These effects are most likely due to the ability of IGF-1 to activate satellite cells, therefore stimulating muscle rejuvenation (1).
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    The complete human IGF-1 Long R3 IGF-1 is 2-3 times more potent than IGF-1 due to less ability to be made inactive by IGF binding proteins (5) (6).
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    3. Am J Physiol Endocrinol Metab. 2002 Mar;282(3):E601
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    5. IGF-I variants which bind poorly to IGF-binding proteins show more potent and prolonged hypoglycaemic action than native IGF-I in pigs and marmoset monkeys.J Endocrinol. 1997 Nov;155(2):377-86.
    6. In vivo actions of IGF analogues with poor affinities for IGFBPs: metabolic and growth effects in pigs of different ages and GH responsiveness. Prog Growth Factor Res. 1995;6(2-4):385-95. Review.
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  14. Apparently the increased brain function from that insulin isn't as effective as you thought. I didn't say anything about Manny Pacquiao or Europe in what you're quoting.


    What the **** are you even babbling about?
     
  15. elguapo

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