Jeff Powell - Daily Mail

He's a ***** but it's hard to argue against this really. In the last 2 years, Haye's been a part of 4 much hyped pay per views and they've all been pretty shite.

Haye's not the only fighter to abuse the pay per view system for sure (and Amir Khan has been even worse) but it doesn't help boxing in general. It's just the way it works though and once again the general public are feeling short changed at an overly hyped boxing event.

 

I agree with a lot of what Powell wrote there though. Haye's a joke and should probably retire.

The much-respected-around-here Steve Bunce is taking another line - people are being too harsh on Haye, it would be such a shame if Haye gets booed.
Aah, diddums !

When all is said and done, the Wlad-Haye fight speaks for itself, from the ballyhoo and build-up onwards, as does Haye's performance speak for itself, as does his post-fight reaction to losing.
Put it in a time capsule.
It is what it is.

 

Whether Khan and Froch fighting off of Sky, and off of PPV, is directly caused by Haye-Harrison, I don't know.
But it's all linked.

Sky made the Cleverly-DeGale-Groves bill PPV somewhow, but Froch has been under-marketed for years !?
Something's wrong, and it can't be blamed on David Haye, or Frank Warr""n ..... Sky needs to sort it's own thing out, and get some proper advice.

Problem is, there are experts and pundits around who will insist that Haye-Harrison needs to be made because it will "bring interest back to boxing".
They don't even have the foresight to consider the aftermath and backlash.
It's a shame, it's all short-term big-money big-headlines stuff.
It's sad that more people bought Haye-Harrison than Khan-Maidana.

 

I do not always agree with Steve Bunce, but he is right in this instance, and unlike Powell, a proper virtually full-time boxing journalist.

Coming to a boxing forum, you would think most people have a sense of what the sport is about. Haye has just lost a fight to one of the two biggest money makers he could fight. If he is to carry on his career, he has little option other than to continue playing the bad guy/arrogant character, to try and gain a rematch.

If people want to boo him for being a bad guy, good, as long as it is done firmly tongue in cheek, if people just want to boo him, they are not being very smart, nd they are not helping the sport in this country.

 

Obviously not.
It's probably a result of bad marketing priorities from Sky though.

 

complete and utter bollox. Khans not on Sky because his managment team are a bunch of amateurs and he scheduled his fight 3 weeks after the biggest fight in years.

Froch vs Ward will almost certainly be in October.

 

The people who damage the sport in this country are the people who are ready to push hype-jobs and mismatches onto the less-informed public.
Boxing always has to battle this image of being a "rip-off" and "fixed" and a "con".
Joe Public WILL buy the pay-per-views, and he will walk away feeling ripped off.
Boxing remains the freak sideshow of sports to him.

It seems that the Hayes and the Bunces of this world are quite happy about that.

Personally, as a knowledgeable boxing fan, I knew it was a probable mismatch and that Haye was 99% all talk, so I don't feel ripped off at all. I feel vindicated.
It's a shame that people will carry on trying to defend these fights and these performances.
As long as someone makes £ XX million, and the headlines and ballyhoo remains big, they think the sport is healthy.

 

IF haye does fight on and gets a fight in october, that would likely mean that froch won't be on SBO anyway wouldn't it? Unless of course haye isn't on box office, which i suppose would make sense.

 

Haye could fight on the undercard.

 

Its unlikley Haye would fight in October. They could also do Haye in the UK and go to the US for Froch vs Ward.

As much as I love Froch it would be nieve to think he can carry a PPV and generate HUGE numbers.

 

Yeah, I don't even believe much in the pay-per-view system, so I don't worry about whether Froch is missing out on a "deserved" PPV as Powell implies.

I do wonder whether the PPV thing and mismatches, and the continuing lack of good boxing on the terrestrial and non-subscription channels will turn people further away from boxing in general though.
It probably couldn't get much worse than it is now.

 

You said this for the Mitchell-Murray fight as well. Are you suggesting there should be no fights within a month of this 'biggest fight in years'?

Having the fight a week or 3 weeks has small relevance to him being on Sky or not.

They're amatuers, but Sky just aren't interested and they won't even give him a reason why they won't show his fights.

They weren't interested in Bradley, Judah etc

 

They wern't intrested in putting Bradley or Judah as PPV. The reason is it was to close to Haye.

There should be no major fights the week after and no PPV fights for at least a month.

Whats your reason for beliving no reason was given and that they would not be intrested in those fights?