Jeffrey Horn, Jr. vs. Terence Allan Crawford

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by IntentionalButt, Apr 3, 2018.


The Hornet or Lil' Bud?

Poll closed Jun 9, 2018.
  1. Horn on points

    5.0%
  2. Horn by stoppage

    18.7%
  3. Draw

    1.4%
  4. Crawford on points

    35.3%
  5. Crawford by stoppage

    39.6%
  1. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    A month, dude. For some but not all of ESPN's content. On top of having already paid your cable provider to include the ESPN family of networks in your subscription. "Fair", really?

    Unless they do away entirely with having live boxing on ESPN & ESPN2 (which basically means I have no reason to even have ESPN in my cable package), this is just going to dilute their product so that some is free while certain events require you to pay extra for a service that - if you don't care about the rest of their programming besides this sport - is an unnecessary fleecing. They would need to put on more than a dozen fights per year to have it not work out to essentially being a PPV model at 5 dollar a pop.
     
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  2. Tomato(e) Can

    Tomato(e) Can Emmanuel Dapidran Pacquiao. banned Full Member

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    Dude, you really can't swing $5.00 a month/$60.00 a year? That's only $2.00 more than a large iced coffee at Dunkin Donuts and the annual rate is less than a night of drinking for me. Totally fair.
     
  3. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    Nope, apparently Lomachenko vs. Linares will be on traditional ESPN on your set top box.

    ESPN+ will have 18 fights per year, it seems, twelve domestic and six international.

    The first international card will be Khan vs. LoGreco on April 21st.
     
  4. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    Five bucks per fight, basically. Unless the quality of cards is amazing, I'm not really happy to have to all of a sudden pay extra to watch some of the boxing that until now has already been included with the fees I already pay to have ESPN on TV (only for the sake of boxing, mind you!)

    And unlike with the way it has been so far (which they shouldn't have changed, because it wasn't broken, everything was fine) I can't watch these fights on my big HD TV, just my comparably tiny laptop monitor or infinitesimally smaller phone.

    This is them double-dipping.
     
  5. Tomato(e) Can

    Tomato(e) Can Emmanuel Dapidran Pacquiao. banned Full Member

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    I'll happily pay $5.00 (each card) to see Broner-Vargas, Khan-Lo Greco, Spence-Ocampo, Cruz-Mares 2... If 2 cards fall under one month, great.

    But I won't pay the extra $15.00 a month to get Showtime. Hopefully the fighters get a cut of the $5.00.
     
  6. IntentionalButt

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    You get to watch those fights on tiny screens.

    I get to watch Showtime (and HBO) fights in Hi-Def on a large screen optimized for Hi-Def programming. I also get access to all the rest of Showtime's and HBO's content, a lot of which is shows and movies that I like, which to me sweetens the pot and justifies the higher price tag since I probably won't care about 99.99999999999999999999% of the non-boxing-related offerings from ESPN+.
     
  7. IntentionalButt

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    To be fair, I did just read that having ESPN+ does give you access to, supposedly, both the full ESPN & Top Rank boxing libraries. That is pretty cool. But in terms of live shows, just eighteen of them a year for $60 - and restricted to watching on a PC or mobile device/tablet - is a bit steep and, upon first glance, really not a welcome expense on top of already paying to have my cable subscription include every channel available in my particular market that ever features live boxing. There's a whole lot more to live boxing than ESPN, and they are basically with this move putting boxing fans in a very awkward position, especially lower-income fans, especially ones that don't happen to already be cord-cutters, and especially ones to whom the rest of the content the ESPN+ service might offer holds little to no interest.
     
  8. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    ESPN Plus is some type of "app" thing. Not sure how it works. Top Rank is involved in the boxing
    side of the new platform. Starts up on Thursday 4/12/18 supposedly. A lot of old ESPN re-tread material will
    be available.
     
  9. fistsof steel

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  10. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Do we know who the ref will be for this bout?
     
  11. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    It will be a streaming app for smartphones, tablets, and I think computers. None of its fights will be shown on television anywhere in the US, they will have exclusive distribution copyrights in this country for these specific monthly Top Rank cards, as well as the North American rights to half a dozen international cards (including, at the very least - since Khan vs. LoGreco is the only international fight we have to go on so far - partnerships with Matchroom)

    All the non-international cards will be Top Rank shows, 100%..
     
  12. IntentionalButt

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    Tony Weeks.

    Judges will be Ignatius Missailidis (Aus), Guido Cavalleri (Ita), and Burt Clements.
     
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  13. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Kinda reminds of back in the 60's, when many boxing fans said re: PPV...."I will just wait until
    next week when they show the replay on Wide World of Sports ....with Howard Cosell reporting."
     
  14. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Weeks... sometimes he good sometimes not so much. I wonder do you think he'll allow Horn's rough house tactics? I think that will really determine the fight.
     
  15. oiky

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    For me Crawford wins this fight by stoppage
     
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