Jeffries Admits Munroe Did Not Merit Title Chance

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  1. mcvey

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    In this letter to a friend , on Jan 1910 , the year of his title challenge to Jack Johnson , Jim Jeffries admits Jack Munroe did not deserve a title shot.

    And that he was in no doubt it would be an easy nights work

    " I never did think he had the right to be taken seriously"


    "I hated to enter the ring that night, for I felt in my heart that Munroe could not give me a contest and the public would not get a run for its money in such a one-sided exhibition"



    Jeffries also castigates Johnson calling him " not a true sportsman"

    "I want to say that I will not, if I can help it, permit that negro to hold the heavyweight title . "

    http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/45102198
     
  2. guilalah

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    Interesting read if it's legit.

    Regardless, the fact that Jeffries chewed gum during the Monroe challenge probably says enough about how Jeffries regarded him. The fight was, I think, mainly motivated by vendetta, and because all the media rumours regarding his previous meeting with Munroe gave Jeffries hopes a defense would prove lucrative.
     
  3. mcvey

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    Jeffries stated he lost money on the fight ,the box office receipts were for $30,000, take out both fighters ends and the promoters, add training exes.
    Perhaps Jeffries should have accepted the $30,000 guarantee he was offered to fight Sam Mcvey that year?:think
     
  4. janitor

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    Jeffries hated Munro.

    Munro was a pioneer in the art of trash talking for unmerited publicity, and Jeffries had little or no sense of humour.

    Actualy, Jeffries likley had his sense of humor surgicaly removed at birth.

    While the media bought into Munro's trash talking, Jeffries was the only person talking him down, despite his financial interest in the fight.

    When the opening bell rang, Munro could no longer hide from the truth.

    Any of this sound familiar?
     
  5. mcvey

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    It wasn't too long ago a few posters were stating that Munroe was a legitimate contender, and a worthy opponent for Jeffries, I believe I can count you among them J.
    I said Munroe had no business challenging for a world title and ,now we see that Jeffries himself agreed with me.

    Familiar?
    Yes it sounds very similar to that other travesty Jeffries engaged in ,the affair with John Finnegan.

    ps. We agree on Jeffries lack of a sense of humour at least.
     
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  7. mcvey

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    Fitz was pushing Jeffries out of the way to get at Munroe but Jeffries did not want the golden goose cooked before he had got the gold. When Johnson schooled Munroe a year later, observers remarked how little Munroe actually knew of the most basic boxing arts.
    As I said previously in 1904 ,Jeffries could have fought,Johnson ,McVey, Martin,or Childs, that's just the black challengers that had better credentials than Munroe.

    Simple question, did Munroe deserve a title shot?
     
  8. guilalah

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    Simple answer: Nope.
     
  9. mcvey

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    :good:good:good

    Give that man a cigar! " A man who refuses to equivocate, is a man to be respected". McVey 20012.
     
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  12. Mendoza

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    Any tenured champion has easy marks on his resume. This includes Ali, Holmes, Louis, etc. However it should be noted that Jeffries destroyed Munore in 2 brutal rounds. It was the lone stoppage loss in Munroe's career and he was in there with guys who can hit like Maher, and Sharkey. The destruction of Munroe is a fine example of Jeffries hitting power.

    This fight happened partly because Munroe's camp lied to the press about a match where Munroe was floored a few times in a four round fight, and claimed that knocked Jeffries down, which according the primary source ( Bute Miner ) never happened.
     
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