Jeffries discusses possible opponents after the Munro bout.

Jeffries cleared around £900 for the Munroe fight.Serves him right for fighting the big stiff and ignoring better qualified contenders.

 

I couldn't read your link.
Jeffries ran into Munroe when he was barnstorming the country with Fitz, taking on all comers,offering cash for anyone who could stay 4 rds .

Fitz was first on that night, he feinted his opponent with his left crossed his right and it was all over in 12 seconds.
Jeffries mindful of " good business", told Fitz," I'm going to let this fellow stay into the 4th" , and then put him away.That will give the crowd a better run for their money and help the show". Fitz said," don't do that ,put him away in a hurry", But Jeffries mind was made up.
Into the 4th Munroe's friends were behind him, urging him to stick it out,and Jeffries, not in shape ran out of time,he began to swing wildly in an effort to save the cash forfeit.

After one swing Munro half clipped him and Jeffries,off balance went down, he was enraged when he got up ,but could not catch the miner.


On a side note Bob Fitzsimmons brother in law, Clark Ball 's job was to get into each new town first and try and drum up interest in the boxers and light a fire under any prospective challengers.

Noting how much support Munroe received against Jeffries, Ball elected to stay in Butte and became his pilot, hyping up the exhibition as a real knockdown drag out fight.. Fitz was furious and knocked Ball out as soon as he saw him. A year after Jeffries kod Munroe ,Jack Johnson toyed with him for 6 rds, after the fight the papers were full of how much a raw novice Munroe was, and this was only a couple of fights before Munroe retired.

 

Ferguson was totally humiliated by Johnson , he had been a sparring partner for Fitz in 1901 . He beat the balls off of Hart but was robbed.Rose I've never heard of.

 

We have been over this before. The Butte Miner as the primary source does not mention Jeffries was down at all. The only one down was Munroe, and it was multiple times.

In the real fight, Jeffries blasted a prime Munroe out in two rounds. Johnson took a much more out of shape Munroe the distance in 6 rounds. See a noticeable difference you will not.

The best opponent for Jeffries in 1905 was Hart after Hart defeated Johnson. Jeffries said he would take the match if there was demand for it. There was not because the fight was viewed as a mis-match.

 

Ferguson only won 34 out of 70 fights. He was average, and Johnson had some sketchy moments vs. him.

1904 fight

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Faking it? A fixed arrangement by Johnson? Again?atsch

1905. The rematch to the " fake " fight.

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Adam provided a compelling case that Jeffries was not down against Munroe in his book. Why return to this myth?

 

I said he was off balance and went down, I have never credited Munroe with a knockdown. Munroe was desperately bad after being toyed with by Johnson the press remarked on how little he knew about boxing, yet he had fought for the title?

If I wanted to discredit Jeffries on this subject I would have posted papers that said he was beaten by Munroe.

Jeffries was out of shape, let Munroe stay 3 rds but ran out of time trying to finish him in the last round of an exhibition.
Don't confuse me with Mendoza who believes that because Munroe went 6 rds with Johnson that is a moral victory for Jeffries , or the fact that Young Peter Jackson went the distance with Johnson by running away, and then claimed the cash forfeit, means that Johnson lost.Or the fact that Gunboat Smith took a cheap shot when sparring with Johnson and put him half way through the ropes ,meant that he should have received a title shot forth with, even though he was not even a pro fighter at the time.

 

If I gave one iota about your opinion I would provide news accounts of the Ferguson /Johnson fights, but I do not, and will not.

 

Jeffries was not down during any of the 4 rounds of that exhibition, neither from being off balance nor by any other reason.