Jeffries got what he deserved ...

Jack Johnson was a woman beater. He routinely beat his first wife who would eventually commit suicide. He mourned so much he was remarried in three months.
He was not a good guy.

 

But isn't that exactly what you are doing in regards to Jeffries?

As did Johnson. Even worse than Jeffries.

Johnson was all this x1000. You can't even compare the two.

I'll take an ignorant bigot over a wife-beating creep of a flesh merchant any day.

That's because it was Johnson who was the creep, not Jeffries. And how would you treat a man who, after knocking out your brother, basically said "you're next" as you're carrying your brother's limp body back to the corner? Should Jeff have given him hugs and kisses? Bowed to him as he did Peter Jackson (a far more respectable man)? Johnson is lucky Jeff didn't punch him in the mouth at the contract signing.

No, poetic justice is Johnson the pimp and wife beater getting tossed into the clink. Jeffries never did anything even half so despicable as Johnson and I challenge anyone to find me an example that proves otherwise. And no, calling someone the N-word and whatever else came out of Jeff's mouth does not come near beating a woman half to death and putting her into a hospital. I'm sure Etta Dureya would agree.

And the moral relativism argument of "Poor Jack was under so much pressure..." etc. carries no water. It's absurd. Johnson knew right from wrong and he chose wrong. Despicably wrong. He is responsible for his deplorable behavior and for his choices. Period.

 

All were green. Irrelevant. When Johnson was champ Langford had more of a right to a title shot than Johnson had when Jeffries was champ. Jack just flat out avoided him. Clay Moyle's book spells it out clearly and in detail.

 

Excellent rebuttal ^

 

Ray Robinson beat his wife so much she suffered at least two miscarriages as a result.
Monzon.
Chacon
Mayweather
Corbett
Corrales
Louis
All beat up women what does that have to do with their abilities?

And,Johnson hitting his wife proves he was guilty of the Mann Act?

 

I don't think that Jeffries was going to win any charm competitions.

He didn't like fight fans, humour, fluffy kittens, or most people generally.

Having said that, there are worse things in a human, than being obnoxious.

Jeffries seems to have been an honest and clean living man, who did not make a habit of using his fists outside the ring.

For all the shortcomings of his title reign, it was easily the best before Joe Louis, and it raised the bar in my opinion.

Taking all the above into account, I would have been happy to see him disappear into the sunset with his 0 intact, and enjoy his retirement.

 

I never injected other woman beaters into the argument? I also never brought up the Mann act? Jack Johnson wasn't a good person - outside the ring. Just because other fighters beat women doesn't excuse Johnson of the reprehensible act.

 

'Im not excusing him I just observing that he gets flak for it and desrevedly so but the others do not.I think that is a valid point.

 

I think McVea was legitimately world class when Johnson beat him, though he got better afterwards.

I would agree that Langford and Jeanette were not yet significant forces in the division.

 

It doesn't excuse it, but you have weigh up all the pro's and con's when making the final assessment.

I do not approve of Jeffries decision to draw the colour line against Martin, Johnson and McVea, but I am grateful to him for raising the bar in terms of what was expected of a champion.

I accept that he had certain character flaws, but I think that he was one of the more respectable champions outside the ring, despite them.