Jeffries got what he deserved ...

Langford went into print stating he hoped Jeffries broke Johnson's jaw in the first round. I wish that prime for prime they had fought, so Jack could have given him another good beating.

 

Jeffries received more than Johnson, though he was no longer the champion.If he had won the film rights would have probably doubled in value.

 

Really? You would have been rooting for Johnson over Langford? I must say that kind of surprises me.

 

I think that's probably what would've happened. Sad but true.

 

What a revisionist crock of ****. Sure, it would suit some peoples agenda to pretend that every single white person was walking around with his own noose just rabidly waiting to hang the first black person that showed his face in the daylight. Unfortunately that is the most skewed and flawed view one could bandy about. If that were the case civil rights would have never been advanced as far as they are today. Do you think African Americans won those battles on their own? Hardly. If it was really them against us as you suggest they would still be under the heel of white slave masters. If they really had no obligation to abide by the laws of civilized society then they would have never been able to draw so many non African Americans to their cause. Thats just a bull**** excuse, like today, for ignorant assholes to run amok and act like savages. "I dont have to act civilized because whitey doesnt treat me good." Cry me a ****ing river. Congratulations youve basically bottled and articulated one of the weakest arguments for the ridiculously high statistics of crime in poor black communities and its weak ass arguments like yours that set equal rights movements back, not forward.

God, how pathetic, "Johnson didnt have to act like a civilized human being to anyone because he was treated so bad by a small segment of the worlds population." Yeah, thats why he acted like a **** in the USA, and England, and Spain, and France, and Argentina, and Cuba, and Mexico, etc etc. You know I learned a long time ago that if a guy is constantly getting into trouble and constantly has an excuse the hard truth is probably the single common denominator and in that case its Johnson. It didnt matter what state, country, culture, or race he was interacting with (including his own) he was pretty much universally decried as a *****. I think Ill take the words of pretty much everyone who ever dealt with him over some misguided bleeding heart .

 

I dont think I would root for Johnson against Langford but Ive always strongly felt that Johnson really had Langford's number stylistically and sizewise and as a result I would take some guilty satisfaction in being right would Johnson beat Langford. I get kind of tired of hearing how Langford was pre prime when he lost to Johnson and how much better he would have done later on. I kind of tend to doubt it. If you watch how Langford fights and then watch how Johnson fights and then take into account the physical difference between the two. I think as good as Langford was and as legit he was as Johnson's #1, I think it would be a surprising mismatch. Bad style matchup for Langford.

BTW, I just found a group of interviews of fight experts giving their opinion on the upcoming Jeffries-Johnson fight. Langford was quoted as saying something to the effect: "Johnson is scared to face me and Im scared to death of Jeffries so I pick Jeffries to win." I found that interesting, totally flawed obviously, but interesting non the less.

 

Langford matching with Jeffries would not have been a sensible career choice,in 1904, in 1910, he would probably have bashed Jeffries up
.Langford was a big Jeffries booster at Reno, he and Bob Armstrong loudly told all and sundry Jeffries would kill Johnson.

Joe Jeannette wasn't slow adding his opinion to their's either."This man Johnson has no right being in the same ring with Jeffries ", then he had the gall to say," Jack forgot about his old friends once he was champ". ****ing ****er!

 

I don't see why it would be sad? Stylistically and physically Johnson should beat Langford imo.

 

Johnson was an interesting man but a **** in many ways. Similar to Ray Robinson perhaps?
One thing I don't think can be denied,[ though Mendoza has suggested he was a coward,]is that Johnson had *******s as big as foot *****!

 

Neither Johnson nor Jeffries were saints.. And I wouldn't get too emotional about anything you read about them either.

 

Absolutely. No argument about that. That means Langford would remain "the greatest uncrowned champion of all time" no matter what and that's sad. That also means Johnson's reign would always remain unchecked, and undeniable as it was, we all know what it meant to black boxers for years to come.

 

Must be the mods ,absolute power corrupts absolutely.

 

He would probably have beaten Ketchel in a fight on the level and won the 160lbs title,and no doubt he could have been the 175lbs king , but unless Johnson did a Lennox Lewis, I think he was always coming second to Lil Arthur.