Sharkey had a notoriously foul temper,and often could not control himself between the ropes.Even as an old man he went to the flea circus on Coney island where Jack Johnson was spieling,and after some preamble inveigled Johnson into a spar.Johnson his usual leering self, was in much better shape than the now rotund Sharkey ,and ,contented himself with nullifying the Sailor's efforts, but it quickly became obvious that Sharkey was out for blood,Sharkey hated Johnson anyway,Jack was forced to clinch and talk Sharkey down from his rage,"take it easy Tom, we is just playing aint we?"
Rocky retired because he had a back injury that prevented him from boxing. Yes--If Rocky fought on past his prime he could have lost. Such is the way of boxing. Don't confuse age with a fighters prime. A fighters prime has a lot to do with his lifestyle out of the ring, style in the ring, and punishment taken in the ring.
Does anyone remember Ted Lowry ? Here with go again with ring immotal Rex Layne, not an all time top 100 heavyweight but a foundation block in SQ's Rocky fanaticism. Nobody breaths more life into this plodding tub ... and of course the 37 year old Louis (LOL) ... inetesrting how your weight and age comparisons are point making negatives for every fighter other than when Rocky is concerned ... then again, your not really taken seriously on this topic ... too partial ... You really sound foolish casting your lot with the many uninformed here by ripping Sharkey like this ...
"Fighters I have met" I think was the title, it was a newspaper syndiicated series of articles where Tom traced his career. Interesting.
I really cant understand why Jeffries cops so much for the Munroe defence. Monroe went 20 rounds twice with Hank Griffin (who was just about to defeat Johnson) in his first 2 years as a professional, He scored a string of knockouts against solid but not first class opponents. He had the Jeffries supposed knockout, He beat former title claimaint Maher by KO and according to this report http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?_r=1&res=9C02E3DB1E3BE631A2575BC2A9649C946597D6CF he beat Sharkey also. Plus, shortly after he fought Jeffries he went the distance with Jack Johnson. With his only other real loss being to the 6'4 Fred Russell. He did ko several other fighters that again were not world class. This is the record of a good fighter who had as much right to a title shot as anyone else.
Just curious but does anyone actually think he wrote that piece? The guy was a borderline ******. And none to good with money or the money of others to boot.
Once again, Rocky Marciano had a better chin than Tom Sharkey. True or False? Do not avoid this HE. You dug yourself in a deep hole, and I will not let you get out of it. I want a definitive answer.
Munroe beat who? Peter Maher who had lost 3of his last 4 fights by ko inside 2 rds,the only win of the 4 was a dq over pathetic Joe Grim,Maher was an alcoholic when he fought Munroe. He beat Sharkey ? Well ,maybe that shows you Sharkey wasn't that good.He went the distance 6rds with Johnson, most did ,Johnson seldom went for the finish, he carried lots of bums.Munroe was beat by Denis Hayes 12-16-2, he was a nobody.Knocked out Jeffries? He never even dropped him.Munroes record is w .12 l. 4.
"Layne, in his salad days, S, may not've been elegant, but he could drop an ox with his right. That punch was NO JOKE."- Boxing Historian Joe Rein It appears a boxing historian, an ESB member, who saw Rex Layne live, holds him in much higher esteem as a puncher than you do. But, your bias opinion counts for more. I should start quoting HEGrant in my posts as a "Boxing Expert". Interesting how Luis Firpo is described by you as a "murderous puncher", while layne is described as a "plodding tub". Firpo's skill level makes Layne look like Willie Pep. Perhaps if you stuck to your own standards, I would not have to alter mine to stoop to your level. Funny how Bob Fitzsimmons, at 37 years old, was an all time puncher, but you use louis age(37) to make a point about him not hitting hard. I guess the phrase "power is the last thing to go" applies to everyone in history except a 1951 joe louis, in your eyes. Bias. Also ironic how you typically use size and weight to make arguements for certain fighters hitting harder, but when it comes to Marciano, size suddenly does not matter anymore. Let me ask you a question Joe Louis at 214lb, hit harder than Kid McCoy at 156lb. True or False? Note: McCoy twice floored Sharkey, while Louis did not put Marciano on the floor. OIC, So Tom Sharkey is such a ring immortal, that an ounce of criticism that is dropped on him, should have me banished from speaking for eternity!!! Yet Marciano, a far less ring legend than Tom Sharkey, can be picked apart and critisized on any given time and day. :roll:
I just love how we are labelled "uninformed ", because we do not agree with you ,in your admittedly short time on this forum, I have never seen you effectively rebut someone else's argument,you usually just ignore their salient points.I normally try to avoid personal observations on here,but you do come across as rather smug on occasion.You produce zero evidence to refute those who disagree with you ,and no logical argument either.
I read ok thanks ,and have been reading about boxing, boxing myself and watching boxing for over 50 years . I don't think you are going to inform me somehow.