Jeffries power

Fitzsimmons had also been retired for two years the first meeting they had also.

I dont think Jeffries could fight anyone but Fitz. Fitz had kod the two leading contenders since losing to Jeffries, and any other fight would have been seen as a blatant ducking of Fitz.

It is interesting though, that Fitz maintains that in 369 fights (he seems pretty convinced of this number) the only person to beat him at his best was Jeffries in the second fight. Fitz was in shape for this second fight. He seems to indicate that he wasnt in shape for the first. Given his age, and the inactivity you point out, as well as the actual performance of Fitz in that second fight, you do have to wonder whether or not Fitz would have reveresed the result if he was in his prime.

 

STFU! I give you examples of historians, and you throw them out. I have seen you plenty of comments like this before, and most of them were from far less qualified authors. Nice double standard! We all see how fair and balanced you are.

It might interest you to know that Jeffries produced at least one knockdown in all his fights, save his lame comeback attempt 5 years later. No other boxer has ever done that. :deal

 

One theme that remains consistent through out boxing history is that all champions want to maximize their earning opportunities ... very few duck any opponent that can earn them big money ... Jeffries had the matches w Corbett and Fitz because he believed they werer the biggest name guys he could fight and earn against ... as champion he was all about the money.

 

Sorry J, I was being obtuse.

 

You open a sentence with STFU? Very fair and balanced
In case you missed it ,I was commenting on your quote , " Historians of the day",I pointed out that the vast majority of those you mentioned were not historians of the day, and never saw Jeffries fight,in fact apart from Rickard who out of those you mentioned did,Grombach? Possibly, the others certainly did not.
Now go back and read your nonsensical post again , isn't it silly
Please try and write a cohesive sentence occasionally, it would make a refreshing change from trying to decipher your chimp like efforts.
Oh, can we have a source for his knockdowns in Jeffries fights with Hank Lorraine, Bob Armstrong, and Joe Goddard please?
Nearly forgot how about an answer to my question .
"Which heavyweight of any stature, who was in his prime did Jeffries actually ko"
4th time of asking.

 

We are talking about a man who was all but 37, who scaled 27 lbs lighter than Jeffries here. Corbett no longer had the quickness, or mobility to avoid bigger men's rushes and without top end power he would allways struggle with 210 lb heavyweights , once his advantages in speed had eroded.My perception of Jeffries compared to Sullivan, is that John L had genuine top end ko power in his right hand ,whereas Jeffries was a solid walloper who generally wore his man down.

 

Well for how about Hank Griffin. Remember him, Jack Johnson lost to Griffin, and could not beat him in three tires. Jeffries Ko'd him.:deal

Jeffries Ko'd Fitzsimmons and Corbett. Fitz defeated contenders via KO to earn his second title shot. Past their prime fighters do not blow out other top ten men. Corbett was only 33 in the first fight, and by definition of his own people in great shape and put in his greatest performance in a losing effort in the first fight. How Corbett performed means a heck of a lot more than his in-activity leading up to this fight, so spare us your dates of the last time Corbett won a fight. Past their prime fighters do not preform well. Although Sharkey lasted the distance, Jeffries injury in round two of a 25 round fight had something to do with that.

As I told you before, Jeffries record has very little fat on it. He probably fought less journeyman any other heavyweight champion I can think of. Most of Jeffries fights were vs. name fighters, and he does have a very high KO% in title fights. Jeffries also floored all of his opponents at least once, save his comeback attempt in 1910 when he was washed up.

You're a joke.

 

Read the papers and learn. Goddard was down at least three times. Lorraine was Ko'd quickly. Armstrong went down in the mid rounds, and was hurt in the final rounds. Had the Armstrong match been a bit longer, and Jeffries not broken his thumb in the match, Armstrong is likely stopped.

 

`Is Griffin really the best you can do?

Griffin went down from a push in the first round and was knocked down twice by clean punches in the second. From then on he was in survival mode to claim the $100 forfeit. One report, prior to the start of the bout, described Griffin looking like a "famine sufferer". Attendance: 5,000

He was 40lbs lighter than Jeffries.atsch

Jeffries best wins are over two old champs, past their prime who were coming out of retirement after long layoffs, conceding tons of weight and age, and a five foot 8ins face first brawler,whom he could not stop in 45rds.

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(respectfully) where does this leave Johnson who'e three best wins were over
a light heavyweight (Burns), a middleweight (Ketchel) and an heavily faded Jeffries ?

 

How about multiple wins over Jeannette ,and a 20 rd stoppage of McVey? Kos over Childs,Johnson's best wins were BEFORE he became champ.imo