Jeffries Ruhlin

Not the quality we have now. But maybe one day if it can be restored and cleaned up.

Technical superiority matters to a degree. Bryan Jennings could stick and move all night long against a rudimentary brawler. But not all boxers are like that.

Some boxers today still favour an aggressive approach and the actual art of punching a man to knock him out is no different then it ever was. So in an actual toe to toe war I see no reason to hold technical inferiority against old timers when they are in a matchup based on physical attributes.

 

That footage of Jeffries jump roping is really impressive.

There are good athletes, great athletes, and phenoms. Jeffries was obviously a phenom.

 

Even better, one day we will be able to clone virtual versions of past fighters using DNA and other techniques to finally see fantasy matchups!

 

"clone virtual versions of past fighters using DNA"

But a clone of Joe Louis would not necessarily be Joe Louis.

Physically, yes,

but would he have the will or "heart"?

The clone might prefer another sport or no sport at all.

 

If there was a program that could ****yze fight footage, and had extremely smart AI, it would be very accurate. This will definitely be possible within the century.

 

And those who have done both?

 

Reports say he was lively as a light weight.

Yes, the jump roping shows very good coordination and quick feet.

Better than any heavyweight champion I saw. In fact perhaps as good as any boxer I saw jumping rope.

A phenom for sure, but also media shy and the lack of clear film I think hurts him more than any.

 

It is hard to imagine a boxer abandon defence and succeed in today's sport.

Someone like Ketchel for example a great in his time but he's there to be outboxed because not everyone will exchange with him.

But some older boxers who utilised defence still look brilliant now, Johnson, Gibbons , Tunney, Leonard, Gans etc.

I just think I was easier to get away with brawling back then.

 

If I understand your point, I think you are missing mine. I have no doubt they might one day be able to create a perfect physical clone. But men aren't shaped only by genetics. Environment and life experiences play a part.

The clone would have the physical tools, but would he have the hunger and drive the original had? Would Dempsey have become heavyweight champion if he had been born into a privileged background?

I don't think so.

 

I would hazard a guess that the percentage of boxers who became champions after coming from privileged backgrounds is rather small.

 

I said virtual clones.

So it would have nothing to do with upbringing or any external influences. The program would be smart enough to consume every data point about ever movement of the boxer through fight footage. And the smarter the AI, the easier it would be to replicate that fighter.

 

"The program would be smart enough to consume every data point about every movement of the boxer through fight footage."

I don't know why you would waste this sort of gizmo on virtual historical fights. Why not just feed in info on current sporting teams, race horses, and the like and, as you supposedly would know the result in advance, get rich.

But it doesn't take a "super smart" machine to tell one that, let's say, Secretariat was a superior horse. He still lost 5 of his 21 races. Flesh and blood, you know.