Jeffries V Braddock?

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  1. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Braddock at his best performance beating Max verse
    James J Jeffries in his prime ?
    20 Rounds ?
     
  2. 70sFan865

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    Jeffries with clear decision. Braddock was too durable to be stopped by him, but body punches would wear him down. Jeffries pressure would be too much for Braddock.
     
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    He was a tough nut was Braddock for sure ,I'm glad you mentioned that he'd be unlikely to be stopped by Jeffries . Can see Braddock picking up a few rounds early on , but Jeffries solid mass has the Cinderella man bruised and battered but still standing at the end .
     
  4. Jason Thomas

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    I can't see Jeffries in his prime dawdling like Baer did, but Jeff on film looks wide open for jabs and right crosses, so this fight might well turn out to be much tougher for him than one might at first assume.

    I go with Jeff, but an upset is certainly within reason. Hard to tell how Jeff would handle a tall guy who can box some and has the spirit to take the fight to him.
     
  5. McGrain

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    I think Braddock gets a little bit underrated but Jeffries would kick the living crap out of him IMO.
     
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  6. Hookandjab

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    Over 20 rounds, I'd favor Jefferies.
    Over 15 or 12, I'd favor Braddock.
     
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  7. 70sFan865

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    Jeffries beat better boxer in Corbett. Braddock wouldn't outbox Jeffries from II Corbett fight and he wouldn't stop him.
     
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  8. Jason Thomas

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    Corbett hadn't won a fight in six years and Jeff struggled into the 23rd round with him. Seems weak evidence that Jeff wins over Braddock in 15.

    Also, I think Braddock has a more proven chin than Corbett, certainly the Corbett of 1900, and how that plays out with Jeff could be interesting.
     
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  9. Mendoza

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    Bad match up for Jimmy. He would not last 10 rounds, and could be taken out early. Jimmy wasn't fast on his feet or near Corbett in ability. so using Corbett;s top performance in a loss means nothing here.

    Jimmy was flat footed and there to be hit. He did not hit hard nor was he big or strong. Quite possibly the least talented of all lineal champions. The records shows this, though you could argue Hart or L. Spinks wasn't as good.
     
  10. 70sFan865

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    I can't see Jeffries stopping him early. Braddock was extremely durable.
     
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  11. Mendoza

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    Depends how well he can take body shots. I do agree though that a early stoppage is unlikely, but one in rounds 5-10 is not. Outside of Louis, can you tell me other punchers he fought that landed on him flush? I think Braddock's chin is proven at the solid hitter and below for sure, but vs power hitters.
     
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  12. Seamus

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    I like Braddock's activity, range, mobility and aggression in the Baer fight. And in beating Baer, Braddock beat a better fighter, a more dangerous heavyweight, than Jeffries ever beat.

    An aside to this thread and others like it. Folks like to mention bout length and older fighters' stamina in these discussions between eras. However, the converse of this is pace. Those 25 round fighters didn't fight at the pace that 15 round fighters fought and to which they were routinely accustomed.
     
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  13. 70sFan865

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    Even though Baer was very sloppy in the fight vs Braddock, he still hit him with some very powerfull shots and his attack to the body was terrific. Not to mention that he took tons of punches from Louis who was undeniably harder puncher than Jeffries.

    Jim wasn't good enough to outbox Jeffries but he was too durable to got KO before 10.
     
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  14. Mendoza

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    Haha, okay sure, we get it. You think Braddock wins here. Bear didn't try to win, so why credit Braddock beyond putting forth a modest effort in that one?

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    many of these affairs were vs journeyman opponents. On this topic I think you're pulling our legs Seamus.
     
  15. Seamus

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    I guess you can reason out my estimation of the true abilities of Jeffries then.