JEFFRIES V CHUVALO?

Can you name any time in history where a fighter has shifted that sort of weight, and been able to get back to their best form?

Tyson Fury wont, you mark my words!

 

If Corbett had no history with Jeffries at this stage, then I would unhesitatingly say Johnson.

As things stand, I think that Corbett was owed a rematch.

 

He had plenty of time to make weight and his weight was greatly exaggerated any way, he was down to weight in October 1909,that's 8 months before the fight! I've never suggested he was at his best form ,so I don't know where you are going with this !
Tyson Fury is,like his cousin,a bad joke.

 

Not 3 years later! You make so many accomodations and excuses for these defences,Finnegan was a tryout,Munro was
unavoidable, Corbett deserved a rematch even though he had been retired for 3 years!Ruhlin deserved a title shot even though Fitzsimmons had half killed him a year earlier! If Jeffries had rematched Van Buskirk you would find a valid excuse for him! I'm buying none of it!
Johnson deserved the title shot before the retired Corbett that is unarguable and irrefutable just as the reason he did not receive one is!

 

Ferguson was thrashed by Johnson on a regular basis.

 

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So to ask the obvious, how good do you think that this version of Jeffries was?

 

I think the decision was fair enough.

Corbett had to wait for a rematch because of Jeffries injury, and then he had to wait in line behind Ruhlin and Fitz.

He was long overdue anyway, and when you factor in his win over McCoy, the decision becomes eminently justifiable.

 

How many contenders of the day do you think could have matched Corbett's performance against Jeffries in their first fight?

If the answer is "not very many" then he was in fact one of the best contenders around.

Corbett was owed a rematch based on his performance in the first fight.

He had already been made to wait far too long.

I will back Jeffries to the hilt over his decision to defend against Ruhlin and Fitzsimmons.

Johnson was nobody at the time.

That one is easy to answer, because Jeffries was entirely candid about his reasons.

He wasn't afraid to lose, and he wasn't afraid to get hurt, but he was terrified of the disgrace of losing his title to a black challenger.

So much so that he avoided black challengers who he would have fought unquestioningly had they been white.

That is the top and bottom of it.

This debate would be easier if you learned to quote.

 

This has not escaped my attention.

If Jeffries was only successful because of his size, then why didn't Ferguson make a clean sweep of the little guys?

Why didn't McVea?

 

The version that fought Johnson? About 60% of what he had been.

 

McVey was postulated as a challenger for Jeffries and a promoter guaranteed Jeffries $15,000 to face him ,it was felt the 207lbs McVey made a better physical matchup than other challengers. Ferguson wasn't as good as Jeffries, he was a p*ss head and drank his purses.
Finnegan
Munro
Corbett of 1903
Had no business challenging for the heavyweight title and that's the top and bottom of it! That's three of his seven title defences that should not have happened.

 

Learn to quote what? I quoted your responses and responded to them... What is your criteria?

 

Learn to use the basic functions of the forum.

I don't want to be rude, but you are not using the quote function correctly!

 

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