Jeffries v Langford,Jeannette,& McVey

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  1. mcvey

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    Jim Jeffries v the three men Johnson did not defend against?

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    Prime for prime,20rds ,how does the Grizzly do?
     
  2. guilalah

    guilalah Well-Known Member Full Member

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    All at once?


    Damn ---- Jeffries is tough, but you know what happened to King Ghidorah when he took on Godzilla, Rodan and Mothra together .....
     
  3. guilalah

    guilalah Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Prime vs Prime, would favor Jeffries. But could be really good fights. McVey had power, Jeanette was a very durable cuss, and Langford was a great mix of both those qualities. Wouldn't exactly be suprised if someone pulled off an upset; would really tip my hat to Jeffries is he does a 6-0 against these guys (just as I really tip my hat to Jeffries for going
    6-0 with Sharkey, Fitzsimmons and Corbett).
     
  4. MrBumboclart

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    Jeffries vs McVey
    McVey had good footwork - that was about it. I think Sam gives Big Jeff some trouble for the first few rounds but Jeff closes the distance and starts wearing Sam down. He stops him somewhere between the 15-18 round.

    Jeffries vs Jeanette
    Jeanette was a good conventional fighter, for the time, he had a big heart and a lot of fight in him. I think he's too tough to yield to Big Jeff who would bully, crowd and overpower Joe at times. It goes the distance with Jeff taking a wide decision.

    Jeffries vs Langford
    Sam schools him for 20 rounds and takes a decision. Langford could have been the greatest fighter that was ever born. Jeffries was a man lucky to be born with a granite jaw and heavy hands, he wasn't the tactician or the incredible boxer that the Boston Tar Baby was.
     
  5. janitor

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    Based on the likley timeline, Jeffries would have been in his prime, fighting green versions of these fighters.

    His critics then say that he only beat much older or younger opponents who he outweighed by N lbs!.
     
  6. mcvey

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    It clearly states PRIME FOR PRIME.:patsch


    If he had fought Langford, whilst he himself was in his prime, he would be meeeting a ,man who scaled in the low 140's.

    As to the statement that he beat much older opponents who were also much smaller ,that would certainly be true of his two most celebrated opponents,[Fitz & Corbett] would it not?
    Plus his next most celebrated opponent ,[Sharkey] though his contemporary in age , was around 30lbs lighter, and some 6 inches shorter, was he not?
    There would seem to be nothing wrong with making a statement, if it can be backed up by cold, hard facts.:deal
     
  7. Mendoza

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    Mcvey could hit, but he was somewhat one dimensional ( mostly a left hook ), and not as tough as he looked. McVey was floored in more fights than you think. for example he was floored twice vs Johnson in a distance fight, and was TKO'd in the third match. Johnson wasn't a big puncher. Sometimes Mcvey complained to the ref about rough tactics, and backed off in his long filmed fight vs. Battling Jim Johnson once he was hit. I think Jeffries does everything better and would win via mid round KO.

    Jeannette was a gutsy fighter, and one with good skills for his time. I have seen him once in his prime vs. Langford, and once as a old man sparring with Johnson. More than the sum of his parts for sure, Jeannette looks to be one of those fighters who is can do a lot of things well, but really isn't dominant in one phase of the game, outside of stamina and guts. Jeannette might last the distance in a 20 or 25 match or might get stopped late.


    Langford had tremendous respect for Jeffries, and his manager offered to fight any man but Jeffries. I think Langford was better than McVey, Jeanette, and in his prime perhaps even better than Johnson, but his style and size would make this a tough match up for him. If a fighter is in awe of another fighter and his manager said no fight with Jeffries at any time its hard to pick him. I do think however, that Langford was the best of the three, and would give Jeffries a test in a losing effort.
     
  8. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace

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    I think he beats mcvey and jeannette on points.

    It seems, when he wanted to, jeffries could box very economically at range countering anyone he had a speed and size advantage over (i believe he has these advantages over the two mentioned fighters) so he could easily pick up a clear decision imo and I see no reason for him to engage either in a wild brawl that he's sometimes depicted as doing because his athletic abilities should see him box at range quite comfortably.

    Langford has the strength, ability and punch prowess to get inside jeffries and I think he could put a hurt on james in the early goings but eventually the strength of jeffries will tell and in this matchup I think he would have to resort to his strongman tactics as he did against fitz and corbett now fortunately the size discrepancy still plays here so it's fairly easy to imagine james being outclassed early on by the vastly more skilled smaller opponent, likewise it is easy to imagine james landing his clubbing shots early on forcing his opponent to work at a high energy level until eventually the tide swings and james james more shots as sam slows down. James wins by stoppage around the 11th round.