Jeffries v Quarry

Corbett was rated over Louis and Dempsey at one point in time. he was a great all time boxer so of course he could outbox bigger punchers. Would he in actuality who knows but certainly he had the ability to do so. Jeff was a converted Southpaw so he carried a brutal left hook. I believe Fleischer rated his left hook as the best all time in the hwt division as per his book 50 years at ringside.

 

>>>When you are out of ammunition, this ( and the race card ) is all you have. You make plenty of spelling, math, and grammatical errors too.

You have to be the densest most bigoted person I ever encountered on the web. And you’re wrong more often than a broken clock. But no worries, I shall allow you and others reading information.

Jeffries floors Armstrong in the 10th, and would have finished him if for a broken thumb, and the ten round distance: “ In the tenth Jeffries put Bob flat on his back with a left hand swing on the head “

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So my statement that Jeffries ( whom you seem to question in term of punching power ) floored all of his opponents, save his comeback fight in 1910 stands. Only a puncher could do this. I bet you'll forget later...




Everett was 21-3 when he meet Jeffries, and in his prime. His three losses were via points 2x, and DQ1. Jeffries floored him three times in three rounds, and it wasn’t a contest. Oh, by the way Everett and Jack Johnson fought a few years later in 1901. The result was a draw! So Jeffries blows out Everett in three rounds yet Johnson can only manage a draw in 20 rounds. A bit of a compare and contrast



What opponents did Lewis, or Foreman KO cold? None. Do you question their power? You asked who Jeffries Ko'd cold, and I gave you two names ( Fitz and Corbett ). Munroe was out in round one for the count, and had to be dragged back to his corner.



Once again, Jackson could not rise. He was out, not on his feet. The police stoppage means nothing here, save to prevent a man from getting killed. As for Jackson, I could show you news reports that say he was 1 ) in shape, and 2 ) looking good in camp leading up to the fight. In fact, Jackson had a very good 1st round. He was sharp, but could not take Jeffries power in round two, and was floored twice, then left a tangled mess in the ropes in round three.

Keep posting, and remember your lies, agenda, or mistakes will not stand here...at least if I choose to read and reply your drivel.

 

Its not a joke Houdini, with McVey its an obsession As I pointed to McVey that Jeffries floored every man he meet, save his come back fight in 1910. No other champion can say this. A few times the opponent was either unconscious, or needed medical attention after the fight from injuries caused by punches. Only a big puncher could do this. The links and testimonials can be found in this thread.

I have seen a rare film of Jeffries hitting a heavy bag. In those days the bags were filled with sand, making them far heavier than the bags that are used today. Jeffries re-arranges the stuffing, and violently makes the bag jerk in the directions his fist were headed it. A comparison to Liston can be made, and Sonny was one of the best heavy bag punchers of all time. I wish someone could put it on you tube.

If one were to ask which opponents did Klitschko or Lewis knock unconscious? The answer is zero, however we know they are big punchers.

 

Nat likely saw films of Jeffries in the ring with Corbett, Fitzsimmons, Munroe, Sharkey and Rhulin. All of these fights were flimed. It is an elementary deduction that the films around in 1920’s were in far better shape than what is left today. Nat lived boxing. He saw whatever he could. So to say Fleischer never saw any of Jeffries title defenses is very misleading.

Keep up the good work!

 

Quarry is too small, Jeffries would smash him like a fly.

 

Jim Jeffries has to be one of the most over-rated fighters of all time. He only had 23 fights. How many different styles and experience did he see and develop in that time? He was a fight to the finish type fighter. He traded off on his ability to absorb gobs of punishment to be successful at boxing when it was in it's infancy. Let's face it, if he was fighting under more modern rules we would never even be discussing Jim Jeffries because he would have been outpointed by little Jim Corbett over 15 rounds and had been stooped on cuts by little Bob Fitzsimmons. Am I right? Of course you're going to hear Nat Fleischer lauding and praising Jeffries. Did you ever see Nat's top tens in every division? Almost every figher was a turn of the century fighter. These were his heroes. Jeffries was a clubbing puncher. The kind that Jerry Quarry ate for breakfast every time. Quarry had problems with the speedy, sharp styles like Frazier and Ali not the clubbing punchers like Lyle, Foster, Shavers and Chuvalo (until that goofy, "I lost the count" debacle anyway). Quarry was a counter-puncher with a good jaw. The bane of every big clubbing puncher is a counter-puncher with a good jaw. In my opinion formed over 45 years in boxing, Jim Jeffries was a cruder version of George Chuvalo and would never have survived in the more modern game.

 

Hahaha as soon as I saw his comment I was about to say the exact same thing but you beat me to it.

Jeffries best opponents were all much smaller, much older and usually were very inactive and it took Jeffries getting his faced smashed in before he won. Whether some on here want to admit it or not boxing evolved ALOT in the 70 years and if you put Jeffries in the ring with a guy like Quarry he'd probably look like a fool pawing with his left, non-existent jab, lunging in with every punch and excessivley clinching. Quarry just way too skilled.

 

Spot on analysis :good

Although I'm not even convinced he was a puncher to begin with, the much smaller Choynski and Fitzsimmons are constantly rated above Jeffries as harder punchers by men who fought them. Also Jeffries, although green, couldnt even stop the chinny Choynski off in 20 rounds of fighting despite having a 60lbs+ weight advantage and the fact Choynski was stopped by a welterweight.

 

quarry would be too big for jeffries as jeffries liked to feast on middles.quarry by ko

 

Fleischer rated Jeffries as the "best left hand puncher". Being a converted Southpaw he must have carried quite a wallop with that punch. Rickard who did see Jeffries rated him the hardest puncher he ever saw including Dempsey. This as well as threads questioning Ali, Louis and Dempseys greatness ad re revisionism in it's worst form. Just pure trash.