Jeffries Weighed 235lbs 19th Oct 1909

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  1. Bill1234

    Bill1234 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm not sure when this picture of a fat Jeffries was taken, but it does show that he most definitely put on a lot of weight between the Johnson fight and the fight previous.

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  2. MRBILL

    MRBILL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I love seeing old fart fighters from way back running in an old office suit and hard shoes.....

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  3. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. Full Member

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    I sense an agenda here by the thread starter. Those who know boxing well can tell you when a fighter drops a lot of weight to train for a fight, his stamina and strength suffer as does his timing.

    For a modern day example, look at Riddick Bowe. Bowe would balloon up at times, then shed weight, but it clearly affected his performance. Except in Bowe's case he was in his 20's, and active. Jeffries was 35 and had not fought in 5+ years, and had even more weight than Bowe had to lose to get into shape.
     
  4. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member

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    Of course you who have never boxed ,would know it well.:lol:


    Bowe did not have the luxury of 18 months to get down to weight.

    The thread I put up shows Jeffries was only 8lbs above his eventual weight for the Johnson fight, 9 months before the contest .


    Jeffries had the best part of 18 months to diet and get into shape.

    My thread shows he was allready well on course 9 months before the fight,that is not crash dieting, which is what robs you of stamina.ala Lamotta, v SRR , Lesnevich v Mills 2etc

    That is not an agenda, that is a fact that you need to digest and ,deal with.
     
  5. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace

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    I think you've just repeated what was stated in the initial post.
     
  6. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Don't forget the 10 pound turtleneck sweater and wool cap. OLD SCHOOL.
     
  7. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member

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    Taking off the sweater , and boots would account for 25lbs, easy peasy really.:good
     
  8. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace

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    He was easily the number 1 man the public wanted to see fight johnson. He should have got himself into better shape and only has himself to blame.
     
  9. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member

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    Once he officially announced he was coming out of retirement, he went on two consecutive vaudeville tours and made an absolute fortune. His choice.
     
  10. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    He should have hired some real sparring partners rather than his hack brother. And he really, really should have had some warm up fights.
     
  11. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member

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    That is certainly a better comparison ,than Holmes /Ali.
     
  12. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member

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    I have wondered why he didn't? Maybe he believed [as you said ,] that the fight ,originally scheduled for Frisco was bagged .
    Corbett,and Muldoon, both believed Jeffries suffered a nervous collapse in the late stages of his training.