Jermain Taylor vs Carl Froch who wins?

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  1. sugarngold

    sugarngold RIDDUM Full Member

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    Taylor should be able to box circles around Froch all night long. If Taylor presses it - his handspeed and power should dispose of Froch before 12. I'll play it safe and go with Taylor by rather unimpressive decision. If Taylor proves me wrong by scoring the KO - I will give him his props.
     
  2. TFFP

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    How can a punch be lucky? In boxing matches you throw punches, with the intention of hitting a guy. If you throw one well enough to knock a guy out, you get credit for such a good punch, and I'm wondering what the hell is wrong with the other guys defence to get knocked out with such a "lucky" punch.

    It doesn't make any sense to me.
     
  3. Astola

    Astola Its a fact. Full Member

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    Well - it does to me. Ive seen many fights where a dude is totally outboxed and he just throws that one punch who knocks the opponent out silly.

    Hence the concept.

    And this is btw the only real chance I give Froch against Taylor. I dont think that Froch is capable of beating a fast jabber with weel rounded allround skills. But hey - Im not keen on Taylor at all. I just dont think Froch has the offensive tools to beat him.
     
  4. Vincent Gottschalk

    Vincent Gottschalk Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hey dumb Dumb look at this

    # 1 Pavlik hits harder then Calzaghe
    # 2 Abraham hits harder then Kessler
    # 3 Duddy hits harder then Mundine
    # 4 Rubio hits harder then Andrade
    :deal
     
  5. TFFP

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    Duddy and Rubio hit harder than Mundine and Andrade :rofl

    Good one. You started off pretty well with that theory too. Pavlik and Abraham compare favourably to anybody at SMW, they are right with Froch/Berrio. The rest of the top 10 are horrible, and don't punch anywhere near as hard.

    Which just proves my point, there are a couple of exceptions, but in general bigger guys hit harder. It ain't rocket science.
     
  6. LiamE

    LiamE Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I agree with the puching but not the chin. He clearly has power, whether that carries to the top level is yet to be seen, I think it will but its an unknown. His chin on the other hand is beyond question. The guy has little to no defense and gets chinned in almost every fight, sometimes often. As yet he hasn't blinked let alone looked to be stunned or wobbled.
     
  7. hopkins54

    hopkins54 Active Member Full Member

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    taylor by ud

    even though im rooting for froch he seems slow at european level so imagine how slow he would look at world level.
     
  8. rreed23

    rreed23 aka Gordon Gekko Full Member

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    Taylor early KO
     
  9. Ajfourty7

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    I said froch by ko but i dont really believe it. There's no arguement about froch at a british level but at world class level he has never really been tested. Taylor on the other hand...
     
  10. Benjiabc

    Benjiabc The Nottingham Hitman Full Member

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    taylor has thought the best at middleweight before, hopkins twice pavlik twice, hes pretty much seen it all in what is a decent career. i can just see froch being in a for a big shock when he realises the difference in class, if froch adapts and performs at his best. theres no reason why he cant catch taylor and knock him out, but i cant see it, Taylor UD
     
  11. BADINTENTIONS2

    BADINTENTIONS2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    i'd like to know how many non-brits voted for froch because i think people who believe that froch can conquer taylor are in for a serious wake-up call.
     
  12. marting

    marting Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I just get the feeling that Taylor would jump all over Froch sort of like he tried to do with Pavlik in the first fight but this time it would work.
     
  13. SouthLondonsFinest

    SouthLondonsFinest SE4 BABY Full Member

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    Froch aint getting KO`d, wont happen.
    I think Froch has a live underdog in this fight..safe bets tho UD in favour of Taylor
     
  14. rantcatrat

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    That is not entirely right. Resumes aren't perfect, but resumes are predictive. Generally, a fighter that has fought top ten competition and won is more likely to win against someone who hasn't fought any top ten fighters. Does it always work? No. There are exceptions as you mentioned. But, usually one can predict Pavlik, with his resume, is likely to beat Locket who came into the fight undefeated, but with no significant wins over top ten fighters.

    Froch v. Taylor is more interesting because Froch has no significant wins over top ten fighters; Taylor has a far more impressive resume with wins and draws against ATG's and one close loss against the world champion. Based on resumes, Taylor should easily beat Froch.

    IMO - Taylor dominates Froch. There is a big difference in class. If Froch wins, there was nothing left of Taylor after Pavlik.
     
  15. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    He wasn't undefeated