Jermain Taylor...what a terrible champion..

this is getting ridiculous with the taylor bashing...anyone who fights bhop twice then winky in a row gets credit from me.......he won all those fights imo though i could understand arguments bc they were very close.....everyone is judging him from his spinks fight which is idiotic.....the only thing i see wrong in jermain is his habit to fight to the level of his opponent...i think everyone will stop hating on him so much when he gives us an action packed fight when he beats pavlik

 

I didn't mean that he is overrated, I agree that the JT bashing is way over the top. Yeah he has looked ugly in his last few fights but he is fighting often and everyone he is fighting is top level comp.

 

oh my bad. I misunderstood.

 

taylor sucks get over it ....

 

how does he suck exactly? even if you think he lost to bhop both times and to winky anyone who has a close fight with those hall of famers must be pretty good imo

i think he won all 3 of those fights though i scored 7-5 for all of them


so elaborate for me how does jermain suck?

 

Let's get this CLEAR.

Taylor does not 'suck'. He is a 'poor champion' however by every right, there is a difference between a harsch criticism and saying that a guy outright 'sucks'.

I believe he's a total non-factor against larger, harder hitting men though and Pavlik is going to show this.

He had close fights with P4P ranked fighters, but those fighters were definitley not the types that 'should' give a guy like Taylor at this point trouble, Hopkins is doing excellent things for his age but he's been showing his age the last few years also and has to fight conservatively and at his pace, Taylor has all the advantages in that respect, even at Hopkins' skill level and Hopkins gets massively overrated for the Tarver win when Tarver is basically at journeyman level at this point, even though he followed up with a close win on Wright.

The point is that I don't believe that Hopkins nor Wright would do a damn thing to the bigger, more skilled fighters that Taylor would have to face to recieve a true P4P ranking, I feel that Wright would lose to Abraham for example and virtually every top SMW, but some people can't see this because of Wright's 'set reputation'. He's really a LMW and regardless of his skill level and experience, his age is starting to show also.

Pavlik is going to show why some of us are sick of Jermain Taylor being regarded as well as he is, even with all of the 'bandwagon haters' coming out after the Spinks and Ouma farce performances. I know that I have been saying these things about Taylor from the start and I stick by them.

 

He fought Hopkins close twice, albeit an old Hopkins. Next he took Winky to a draw. Then continues fighting titlists, albeit smaller ones. I've defended him continually.

My biggest problem with Taylor now is that he says he's fighting purely for money.

 

Great Satire and good post. The haters of Jermain Taylor are some the most idiotic people on this board. :good

 

It's styles mate, Hopkins at this point is heavily struggling when he can't keep his pace and Taylor was a young bulldog with a high workrate, he absolutely should have beaten the ageing Hopkins if he was the real deal, instead he gets a controversial decision and nearly taken out in the 1st, that was a bad sign already.

Hopkins is one of those guys who's still top class late in the career, but he's also a 42 year old fighter and it's showing.

Don't let the legacy of Hopkins or Wright fool into thinking because he competed with them means that he competes with guys that can easily paste him by applying pressure and making him crack, it's a different ordeal.

 

I don't understand the Taylor bashing myself. So he was in a few close fights and got the nod. Is that his fault? If you guys want to hate someone or something, why don't you hate HBO. Aren't they the ones who's HYPING Taylor? SO why don't you guys man up and boycott HBO for their hype job instead of trashing a young champ who's NOT AN ******* and NOT A DISRESPECTFUL DICKHEAD.

 

atsch

And this is the guy who sticks by Zab ****in Judah...:-(

 

So I make the claim that Zab easily beats the massively overrated Clottey and suddenly I lose credit for 'sticking by Zab'. I never said Zab was going to be champ again, I said he could beat several of these overrated Welterweights at the moment.

Which he can. I hope the fight is made with Clottey, I'll get good odds.

 

What was your prediction on Zab vs. Baldomir? 100% Zab by KO?:roll:

 

No way did Hopkins win the majority of those 24 rounds. The first fight had the controversy, yes, but JT clearly won the rematch. Just like Mayweather/Castillo II, the loser got their second chance and didn't do much more.

You fools who say Hopkins won those fights know that deep down if Hopkins pressed more action that he would have been hurt or put away. He had to succomb to fighting that way. If Hopkins would have went toe to toe more in either fight you fools wouldn't have **** to complain out.

Hopkins knew that he would get hurt if he put any more pressure on than he did. You fools only have Hopkins to blame for losing that fight. He was way too passive to get the job down both times. He knew better than to get hurt and possibly put away.

 

If he was really a P4P MW, he'd have CLEARLY defeated the ageing Hopkins and would have wiped the floor with Wright, yes.

You do realise that Wright was on a roll, but not like some make out like he was, most of the regard is from the Trinidad shutout, but that's again styles. Another example of styles is how Wright just barely edged Sammy Soliman in an entertaining close bout.

These guys were rightfully P4P ranked, I am not disputing that or that they are fantastic names for the resume, but the issue is that people make out because he 'competed' with them, that he will defeat non-P4P level MW's and even some SMW's, this is absurd, he cannot even handle pressure effectively. Hopkins DOESN'T pressure and Wright lacks the power to put anyone at the top level away, those are the ONLY reasons that Taylor was able to make the distance with a P4P level guy, they were the right types for him.

Again, Pavlik will blow this guy out and make my theory much more valid, even if you don't like them and can't wrap your mind around the fact that boxing shouldn't revolve around reputation alone.