Jermain Taylor...what a terrible champion..

What does that have to do with this conversation Lance? But if you want to go into it, do you think Baldo and Clottey are comparable in the least bit?

Baldo pressures non-stop for 12 rounds at a heavy workrate, with a titanium jaw and never fades. Clottey fights in spurts, has trouble with movers and is very hurtable, he also fades after a few rounds, making himself even more vulnerable to damage and even less of his fighting in spurts, plus I doubt he has much more power than Baldomir anyway.

Baldomir would likely defeat Clottey at 154, he looked pretty decent there against Forrest.

 

Yet you hate Taylor because of a reputation you don't think he deseves? :huh

A reputation overzealous fans gave him? For someone who's thinks they are pretty bright, how about you make up your mind on your OWN, rather then have fanboys do it for you....

 

So did you or did you not think Zab would win over Baldomir?

 

There are multiple reasons why I hate hype jobs and that is what Taylor is.

 

Yes, I thought it was a tune up fight for him. But I had never seen Baldomir prior to that and had no knowledge of him, other than reading that Baldomir felt he had 'underrated power', which did come into play during that fight.

But again, Baldomir and Clottey are far apart. I am running off of a stylistic comparison because I know you don't believe that Zab is a hot and cold fighter to start with, but even this styles comparison is valid if Zab at his best lost to Baldomir, because Clottey is made well for Zab.

 

And who's fault? Taylors? Is he paying HBO to up him as a fighter? Amazing, or better yet, ironic, how you hate hype jobs yet sport that avatar and love for JC. The very definition of contradictory IMHO. Why aren't you haitng JC for the way his fans hype him? I mean, IF you are so against hype jobs.

 

****.. I'm outta popcorn

 

Thank you, that's what I was fishing for. I guess all those "XXXX will win 100% by KO" posts of yours are more your "educated opinion :roll:" and probably NOT as 100% as you like to say right? :yep

My work is done here.:deal

 

I totally agree with u, it's sad.

 

JC is a mass criticised fighter, he's never been in the 'hype job' category.

Taylor's had a massive marketing train ever since the Olympics, it was similiar in ways to DLH, only he's never put up performances like DLH to seal that deal. Do you want to compare a red carpet ride and career long overhyping to a fighter who's been criticised and avoided/mismanaged, only to recieve heavy regard after brutally thrashing the guy who was supposed to 'kill' the 'joke' that most idiots thought he was.

:roll:

 

Let me set this clear.

I am STILL an Edison Miranda fan, have been since his fight with Eastman and I think he'll bounce back, he's an exciting fighter who's willing to take on anyone.

I am not a Pavlik fan, I am just picking him to KO Taylor and he will.

I am a Sam Peter fan, yes. None of these guys get the kind of hype job red carpet ride that Jermain Taylor's and Amir Khan's recieve.

 

Believe it or not, I picked Taylor to win by wide UD, based on styles. He sure didn't win on my card and I can admit to a bad pick.:yep

 

Lets see Taylor "win" a fight, maybe he'll get some credit then.

 

I never believed Miranda would be a P4P level fighter, but I do think he's a top level MW at the moment and I enjoy his exciting bouts, if anyone was hyping him as the next big P4P star in boxing then that is their lack of knowledge. Miranda can improve however and be a valid top contender.

Peter exhibits the type of intangibles needed for a top class HW, Taylor exhibits only vulnerability in his skill and natural ability, it's a different situation. Even then, some idiots are picking Maskaev to beat Peter, that is beyond ABSURD. I'd be surprised if Maskaev gives him two rounds at best, because he's old, has a shaky chin and NO legs.

Peter has many harsch critics, Taylor has haters, fanboys and then a ton of 'apologists' along with his red carpet ride from the start, it's not even close to the same thing.

 

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Great post...the bs **** against this guy is ridiculous. He should be praised and people knock him for getting the decision in close fights (I had him losing the first to Hop, drawing the second and drawing with Winky). Ridiculous.