Jermain Taylor's time is up and I can't wait to say 'good riddance'.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Amsterdam, Aug 19, 2007.


  1. psychopath

    psychopath D' "X" Factor Full Member

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    Of course it's about boxing. :D

    I picked Pavlik to destroy Miranda before . . . now I'm picking Taylor to beat Pavlik. :yep :lol:

    I have nothing gainst Pav . . . I just pick winners. :good
     
  2. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    You also picked the crappy Margarito to destroy Williams, I schooled all of you Margarito fans on that one several times over.:yep
     
  3. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    And you picked Zab to beat Baldomir Amsterdam. You're point was... :D
     
  4. psychopath

    psychopath D' "X" Factor Full Member

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    Well it's not a bad loss because it's a give and take fight. It's not a domination by either fighter. Williams took the early rounds and Marg rallied in the later rounds.

    Anyway . . . just the same I have nothing against Williams . . . I only picked a fighter and he lost. :yep :good
     
  5. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    No, it's not an ignorant pick, Williams is nothing special. The ignorance involved is believing that Margarito is a true top class level Welterweight, I don't understand it personally, but it's officially gone regardless.

    Taylor's is coming up.
     
  6. psychopath

    psychopath D' "X" Factor Full Member

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    Well I like Marg because of his fighting heart and style . . . true top class level welter? I never said he is No 1 . . . but I believe he still is on the top level . . . despite the lost. :yep

    Ok then . . . let's just wait for the Taylor/Pav Fight. :happy :hi:
     
  7. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    That could very easily happen. But I actually think that Taylor has a little secret - his chin isn't too good, which is why he went straight to fighting light-hitting fighters moving up from lower weight classes after Hopkins rocked him. I don't think he can take a punch from a real hard hitting MW in their prime and is gonna get LAID OUT COLD, early. :yep
     
  8. paulfv

    paulfv Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Here, here!

    Well said, man.

    Taylor could have been something, but all he's done is get gift decisions, fattened his coffers off of HBO, refused to listen to Manny Steward, lost his competitive edge and regressed as a fighter.

    I don't necessarily blame the guy. I mean he went from being 'country' to having big $$$. But the bill is coming due for those bogus 'victories,' as well as the string of no-hoper jr. middles he's fought.

    I think Pavlik is going to play 'Repo Man' and snatch the titles away from JT. Can't wait for this fight.
     
  9. sues2nd

    sues2nd Fading into Bolivian... Full Member

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    I KNEW IT!!! THAT IS THE REASON BEHIND THE HATRED!!!

    :lol: :lol:

    Seriously, Taylor is gonna box Pavlik's ears off guys. Cmon....
     
  10. paulfv

    paulfv Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He could, he might just be too damn fast for KP and coast to a fairly-routine UD.

    If Pavlik weren't as long and as tall as he is (and skilled), I would not be picking him. Look, RJJ was a lot faster than Tarver, but Tarver's reach allowed him to hit RJJ with shots that Jones wasn't used to being in range to get hit with (besides the fact that his reflexes had likely slipped).

    Taylor is not the hardest guy in the world to hit. His chin might not be total crap, but I don't think it's iron, either.

    I think KP is going to chop JT down. It might take awhile for him to 'catch up' to Taylor, but I think he will, and when he does, I think JT's "reign" as MW champ is going to go bye-byes.
     
  11. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Only took the tiny, overrated Kassim Ouma 3-4 rounds before the pressure really started to break Taylor's mentality down and rip apart his gameplan, what's the larger Pavlik going to do?

    Pavlik KO 5.:deal
     
  12. sues2nd

    sues2nd Fading into Bolivian... Full Member

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    LOL, Taylor pretty much shut Ouma out. So are you saying the same will happen in the Pavlik fight?

    Glad I could change your mind!!!

    (with some clever editting from yours truely!!! :D )
     
  13. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Yes, he did, but the pressure got to him badly and he was hit with a lot of Ouma's feather dusters. Pavlik doesn't throw powder puff shots and the pressure will break Taylor down and open him up for the shots that WILL take him out of that fight.

    Seems you and some others are posting more lately, the logical bunch have carved out a little niche on this forum and it can become addicting.
     
  14. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    I did man, I was 8 years old and Tyson was ****ing cool.:good
     
  15. paulfv

    paulfv Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Excellent point, Amsterdam.

    I mean, my God, SPINKS had Taylor backing up.

    This fight has some similarities with Calz.-Kessler. Taller guy: more 'robotic;' shorter guy: faster, more athletic, etc.

    The difference is that Calz has skill to back up his talent; he doesn't just rely on his speed/athletic advantages in order to win.

    Taylor, on the other hand, can't even find it in himself to listen to arguably one of the greatest trainers ever, and his game has actually seemed to worsen with time and now seems at its weakest when he should be in his prime.

    Taylor is no chump; he's not going to just come in and lay down. He has some heart or he never would have gotten to this point.

    The thing is, Pavlik is very serious and very focused. Yes, Miranda was outclassed, in terms of skill. But it wasn't just that Pavlik beat him but how he beat him: he walked through his EM's shots (from a power puncher), stayed in his gameplan, and smothered him. He totally broke him down, just step-by-step. It was awesome.

    JT is a good fighter, much as I don't like to admit it. But he's fighting a larger guy who is very focused who is going to be on him from the get-go.

    I think JT's in for a big wake-up call in this fight, similar to how I think Mosley is going to give Cotto a wake-up call.