Jermain's latest "Bad Decision" - an immediate Pavlik rematch - could ruin his career

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  1. JETSKI

    JETSKI Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Love hearing stuff like that.:happy

    Only I've been sold on Pavlik since 3-04-05, when he KO'ed Dorian Beaupierre. Another victim who was never down or stopped in his career.

    Kelly "The Killer" Pavlik sounds more appropriate.:yep
     
  2. LogDog69

    LogDog69 Active Member Full Member

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    I don't know if an immediate rematch is smart but it's not necessarily going to ruin his career. Mosley did this twice with Forrest and Winky and his career isn't ruined even though he didn't win either rematch.
     
  3. JETSKI

    JETSKI Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Love hearing stuff like that.:happy

    Only I've been sold on Pavlik since 3-04-05, when he KO'ed Dorian Beaupierre. Another victim who was never down or stopped in his career.

    Kelly "The Killer" Pavlik sounds more appropriate.:yep

    Sorry about the duplicate post.
     
  4. raw873

    raw873 New Member Full Member

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    I agree with most of the post and I think Pavlik KOs Taylor again, maybe a little later but it still happens. I think Taylor took the fight because of pride. He can't believe he lost and he wants to show the world he can really beat Pavlik. It was a close fight but as you say, Taylor does not have the stamina to deal with a best like Pavlik. Things to think about though, the fight is at 166 where Taylor will be stronger and probably not tire as much because of the struggle to make the 160 limit. I understand that goes both ways and I believe that it will help Pavlik more but things Taylor is probably thinking. Also, he is not going to make more money fighting anyone else as this will probably end up on PPV. The other big factor is that I am almost certain the fight will be in Vegas where Pavlik will not have all the fans from Youngstown. That could be a big deal. All and all, not enough of a gain for Taylor who still goes to sleep somewhere after the 8th round but I give him props for fighting the fight he did and for rematching Pavlik immediately.
     
  5. JETSKI

    JETSKI Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    But it certainly took away some of the luster on his career. Winning those rematches could have been a big plus on his resume.
     
  6. jsimps

    jsimps Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Kelly has fought numerous times in vegas and his fans will follow. May be not to the degree that he had in AC, but that is what is special about Y-town. I hope they fight in NY, because they surely will draw just as many Y-town fans, if not more, as AC. Either way, KP = KO rd7.

    The "Get Ready to Rumble" thread is the Vindy article on this fight.
     
  7. JETSKI

    JETSKI Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Zuniga came to fight, boy, did he. And you saw what happened to him. Whats that? You never saw that fight?

    Go find your own link to it!

    :rofl

    This place cracks me up thanks to fools like you.

    "ANYBODY" who comes to fight? You know jack **** about boxing cause anyone that does can see that Pavlik applies so much pressure that he breaks down their spirit before he breaks them down phsyically.

    Good try.
     
  8. pablogad

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    If Jermaine Taylor can take care of his stamina and employ a non offense based defense he has every chance of beating Pavlik. Scribes and fans alike can believe whatever bs theories they want to manufactuer or otherwise about Pavlik's indestructability. Pavlik was in a competitive fight right up until the point that he knocked out Jermaine; Jermaine chumped out when he failed to close the show earlier.

    Now the point of this post saying that Jermaine made a bad decision - I beg to differ. I read too many posts crying for competitive meaningful match ups and the like. Jermaine's hopefully stepping up to the plate and should be commended for his warrior mentality and competitive pride. He certainly shouldn't be criticised for facing his tough challenges, win or lose.

    I remember seeing Azumah Nelson getting destroyed by Jeff Fenech, only to anihilate Jeff in the return bout (not too sure if this happened back to back?). Therefore to say he only can lose the rematch is misguided bordering on foolish.
     
  9. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    :lol:
     
  10. Marnoff

    Marnoff Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    1. He was serious hurt. Period. If you can watch that and say with a straight face that Pavlik was not hurt at all, then you're a liar, flat out - or seriously confused.

    2. I don't care why it happened. The fact is that it did happen.

    3. Alright? I don't care who wins the fight, I like both guys. Pavlik probably wins the rematch, but my points still stand.
     
  11. letsrun4it

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    Of course if Taylor wins by KO he's got a 5 million dollar payday for the trilogy lined up
     
  12. JETSKI

    JETSKI Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Good post, newbie.:!:

    Your correct is saying that his pride was hurt bigtime & this is what is motivating him to want to erase that first defeat of his carreer. But also there might be some foolishness on his part to not try & work out his problems with stamina & punching accuracy with some tune-ups before he jumps back into the fire with KP.
     
  13. Marnoff

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    I agree. Kelly's fans will follow him anywhere in the U.S.. They'll be there in Vegas in numbers if that is where it happens. If it takes place in New York I'm considering going.
     
  14. madpup

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    I swear, with attitude like this some boxing fans do not deserve to have the big entertaining match ups. TAYLOR SHOULD BE COMMENDED FOR HIS COURAGE IN TAKING A REMATCH. Even if he is more likely to lose, the first fight was awesome and hopefully this one will be just as entertaining.

    One thing boxing does not need is fighters taking on ridiculously easy opponents so that not to 'ruin' their careers.

    edit: Just realised i repeated exactly Pablograd's point, sorry man, I missed your post earlier.
     
  15. jsimps

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    If it happens at MSG, the size of the KP crowd will dwarf that of the AC crowd. Y-town will have relocated. Shorter drive to NY.